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Re: KAZAKHSTAN 2020
There are no valid reasons to NOT let Kazakhstan DEBUT.
Seriously, I think the EBU just waited for 2020 to be able to say that there's a new debuting country in the 20s (like Australia was the only new debuting country in the 10s).
It seems that my theory is kinda bad news for Kosovo #seeyouinthe30s
There are no valid reasons to NOT let Kazakhstan DEBUT.
Seriously, I think the EBU just waited for 2020 to be able to say that there's a new debuting country in the 20s (like Australia was the only new debuting country in the 10s).
It seems that my theory is kinda bad news for Kosovo #seeyouinthe30s
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Re: KAZAKHSTAN 2020
We need Kazakhstan at Eurovision 2020
We need Kazakhstan at Eurovision 2020
european since forever because they compete under UEFA. I don't care about official borders. 
Re: KAZAKHSTAN 2020
can't wait for zhana to enter the ESC and kick everyone's butt, who are daring to stand in front of her...
My body is ready
can't wait for zhana to enter the ESC and kick everyone's butt, who are daring to stand in front of her...
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Re: KAZAKHSTAN 2020
I say it again (like each year in the Kazakh threads):
There is absolutely no rational and fair reason as to why Kazakhstan shouldn't be allowed to enter as all the old arguments are dead since the day Australia de facto became a permanent entrant. Unlike Australia, Kazakhstan has an actual European part, but just like Australia, they are an associate member now, they broadcasted the show for years already and they are clearly interested, and just like Australia they aren't technically part of the European Broadcasting Union Area (which btw hasn't been updated for years and is just a bad excuse these days) and just like Australia, Kazakhstan isn't part of Council of Europe either (another pseudo excuse used by the EBU to lock out Kazakhstan which obviously means nothing considering Australia is in).
Then again, my conclusion as each year (since I highly doubt the EBU will open the door to Kazakhstan to the senior ESC any day soon): Australia is clearly considered "superior" as it's a rich and culturally and politically "western" country and English speaking, wheres Kazakhstan seem to be grouped into some sort "second-class" part of Europe, being culturally and politically an "ex-USSR" country, heavily influenced by Russia and other Eastern Slavic cultures (with of course Turkic and central-Asian into the mix). With Eurovision becoming more and more streamlined English Pop contest, there seems to be less and less room for cultural diversity.
Europe is UK, Europe is Spain, Europe is Ukraine, Europe is Albania, Europe is Kazakhstan... we are different, but we are all part of the same continent and Eurovision should be about celebrating our differences and bringing us together, if EBU doesn't get its original concept anymore, then it's sad.
I say it again (like each year in the Kazakh threads):
There is absolutely no rational and fair reason as to why Kazakhstan shouldn't be allowed to enter as all the old arguments are dead since the day Australia de facto became a permanent entrant. Unlike Australia, Kazakhstan has an actual European part, but just like Australia, they are an associate member now, they broadcasted the show for years already and they are clearly interested, and just like Australia they aren't technically part of the European Broadcasting Union Area (which btw hasn't been updated for years and is just a bad excuse these days) and just like Australia, Kazakhstan isn't part of Council of Europe either (another pseudo excuse used by the EBU to lock out Kazakhstan which obviously means nothing considering Australia is in).
Then again, my conclusion as each year (since I highly doubt the EBU will open the door to Kazakhstan to the senior ESC any day soon): Australia is clearly considered "superior" as it's a rich and culturally and politically "western" country and English speaking, wheres Kazakhstan seem to be grouped into some sort "second-class" part of Europe, being culturally and politically an "ex-USSR" country, heavily influenced by Russia and other Eastern Slavic cultures (with of course Turkic and central-Asian into the mix). With Eurovision becoming more and more streamlined English Pop contest, there seems to be less and less room for cultural diversity.
Europe is UK, Europe is Spain, Europe is Ukraine, Europe is Albania, Europe is Kazakhstan... we are different, but we are all part of the same continent and Eurovision should be about celebrating our differences and bringing us together, if EBU doesn't get its original concept anymore, then it's sad.
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Re: KAZAKHSTAN 2020
Only pseudo criterias as I mentioned in my comment above, like the dated EBU area and not being a member of Council of Europe, and Australia is neither so those criterias mean nothing any longer anyways.
Only pseudo criterias as I mentioned in my comment above, like the dated EBU area and not being a member of Council of Europe, and Australia is neither so those criterias mean nothing any longer anyways.
Re: KAZAKHSTAN 2020
I'm not exactly sure why many people are so eager for Kazakhstan in Eurovision. I mean, I'm not against them entering, but feel like it would be simply like Azerbaijan was - a not-exactly-democratic country where the ruling class has lot of money to spend on their participation and will probably use ESC as a PR platform, not to mention being likely another country that gives 24 points to Russia almost every year.
I'm not exactly sure why many people are so eager for Kazakhstan in Eurovision. I mean, I'm not against them entering, but feel like it would be simply like Azerbaijan was - a not-exactly-democratic country where the ruling class has lot of money to spend on their participation and will probably use ESC as a PR platform, not to mention being likely another country that gives 24 points to Russia almost every year.
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i 100% believe they don't let kazakhstan in because they are afraid of their power tbh. a country that sends something this majestic to the mess that was turkvizyon will stop at nothing and has nothing to lose. they will be unstoppable.
THE VIDEO. YOU NEED TO POST THE VIDEO ALWAYS.
My body is ready
i 100% believe they don't let kazakhstan in because they are afraid of their power tbh. a country that sends something this majestic to the mess that was turkvizyon will stop at nothing and has nothing to lose. they will be unstoppable.
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I was on holidays last september in Kazachstan and I can't say something else than that it's a beautiful country naturewise and they have an AMAZING music scene.
Couldn't stop listening to the Kazach radio broadcasters while roadtripping
I was on holidays last september in Kazachstan and I can't say something else than that it's a beautiful country naturewise and they have an AMAZING music scene.
Couldn't stop listening to the Kazach radio broadcasters while roadtripping
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this post is important and everyone should read it at least four times
this post is important and everyone should read it at least four times
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With this logic alot of countries should be thrown out of Eurovision, in fact Sweden is also a pseudo democracy these days so
With this logic alot of countries should be thrown out of Eurovision, in fact Sweden is also a pseudo democracy these days so