Australia AUSTRALIA 2019 - Kate Miller-Heidke - Zero Gravity

[Preuss]

Well I don't think I stated that bloc-voting is the reason why Australia didn't do better, but seeing that she was beaten by some points by Azerbaijan and North Macedonia who gets support every year from some countries to a certain degree is what I tried to point out. Azerbaijan and North Macedonia would've done well anyway though so that's not what I mean

And don't get me wrong; I don't think a country can do well with just being a country like we saw with Russia, Azerbaijan, Romania etc. last year but it's definitely true that some countries have their natural supporters. For example like Russia last year, with respect but the fact that Julia almost qualified with the televoters is ... :?
I mean Cyprus this year got 12 points from Greece (you know), Georgia (where Tamta's from), some points from San Marino however they calculate their score and a single point from the UK which could've resulted in a disaster if it wasn't for the support from Greece and Georgia :?

 

[LakZaNokte]

Well I don't think I stated that bloc-voting is the reason why Australia didn't do better, but seeing that she was beaten by some points by Azerbaijan and North Macedonia who gets support every year from some countries to a certain degree is what I tried to point out. Azerbaijan and North Macedonia would've done well anyway though so that's not what I mean

And don't get me wrong; I don't think a country can do well with just being a country like we saw with Russia, Azerbaijan, Romania etc. last year but it's definitely true that some countries have their natural supporters. For example like Russia last year, with respect but the fact that Julia almost qualified with the televoters is ... :?
I mean Cyprus this year got 12 points from Greece (you know), Georgia (where Tamta's from), some points from San Marino however they calculate their score and a single point from the UK which could've resulted in a disaster if it wasn't for the support from Greece and Georgia :?

All that is fine, and yes, it is easier with some buddies to help u out.

But look, Sound of silence was 2nd without buddies (should’ve won, imo).

All I’m saying that in this case I don’t believe it was about geography or politics or buddies.

It was about the song. Really it was.

 

[LakZaNokte]

Btw, listened to Sound of silence earlier today. That was an excellent entry; to this day I do not understand what everyone saw in 1944

 

[Milos-BC]

Yeah, like I said, all those opera-ish entries have a history of ending up somewhere around 10th place.

It has nothing to do with blocks, politics, astrology or whatever.

They just don’t get enough support from both juries and audience. Even Il Volo didn’t win.

Accept that already and try to remember it for the future cause these fan hysterias about these entries are getting ridiculous. When I think of the situation with that french Sognu (or whatever was called) few yrs back, I get sick, literally.

I think you mixed some things here.


First of all, this was not a fan favorite at all, only a couple of us believed that everything about it is iconic and that she will do much better than expected. Some blogs (I won't mention the names) have said that she will not even qualify for the final.


Yet some of us here were 100% sure that everything will change after the rehearsals and we were right.


She won the semi and then suddenly rules were changed during (and before) semi 2 where the juries were getting instructions to "disregard the show and judge only the songs". Not saying that it was done to prevent her from winning, but it has to be taken into account.


Even that put aside, 9th place is still a great achievment and certainly not a flop. She didn't enter the competition to win (that's what we hoped for) and this was a great upgrade to her career, because now she is recognized in Europe as well. That was her primary goal and she achieved it.



The results are not the end all be all

 

[LakZaNokte]

I think you mixed some things here.


First of all, this was not a fan favorite at all, only a couple of us believed that everything about it is iconic and that she will do much better than expected. Some blogs (I won't mention the names) have said that she will not even qualify for the final.


Yet some of us here were 100% sure that everything will change after the rehearsals and we were right.


She won the semi and then suddenly rules were changed during (and before) semi 2 where the juries were getting instructions to "disregard the show and judge only the songs". Not saying that it was done to prevent her from winning, but it has to be taken into account.


Even that put aside, 9th place is still a great achievment and certainly not a flop. She didn't enter the competition to win (that's what we hoped for) and this was a great upgrade to her career, because now she is recognized in Europe as well. That was her primary goal and she achieved it.



The results are not the end all be all

Ofc it’s a great result, especially for a song like this one

If those juries had to be remainded this is SONG contest, then I don’t know, I give up 2

I get it, some of you believed in the entry, and that’s great, you were right afterall.
But I am constantly refereing to claims that it should’ve done even better. There I disagree, and I elaborated my stance

Srsly, every year without some opera entry is a blessing

 

[Milos-BC]

Ofc it’s a great result, especially for a song like this one

If those juries had to be remainded this is SONG contest, then I don’t know, I give up 2

I get it, some of you believed in the entry, and that’s great, you were right afterall.
But I am constantly refereing to claims that it should’ve done even better. There I disagree, and I elaborated my stance

Srsly, every year without some opera entry is a blessing

The juries were not reminded of anything. It was basically a cry for one particular song (that didn't win in the end) and it got loads of points from them as a result......but the televoting then placed it where it belongs.


You may hate the song and/or the genre in general, that is your choice and your right. However, every genre has its place on the competition and so does opera as well (and "popera" too). Whether someone will value or vote for that is their choice. I am not sure that statements like "Srsly, every year without some opera entry is a blessing" can lead to any productive discussion in this context.


And also, just to conclude shortly, since you are pointing out that there is no song at all behind the show, I have to add that - yes, a song does exist. And Kate herself is an artist with a big "A" for most of the other performers this year. That's the objective reality here.

 

[crashworld]

Can we just step aside and think of the journey Kate gone through right from the beginning of the National Finals.
People hated this entry because alot of people believe she shouldn't have gone through.
But let's think about it, if they send Electric Fields, they could very well do a Portugal and flop altogether.

For me, this song is pretty divisive. I mean Kate has an amazing voice but not everyone can appreciate pop-opera. And people have doubts that this will qualify.
But the improved staging has miraculously elevated the song and sort of "blinded" people to overlook that the song itself isn't all that amazing (even though I really love the lyrical message).

So getting a no. 9 results overall is actually a victory to Kate and Australia this year.

 

[Preuss]

Cool. Camerawork slightly better in the semi-final though imo

 

[musicfan]

For me, this song is pretty divisive.

Maybe that's a good thing.

 

[Fredriksam]

This song, sweden , Netherlands and norway are the ones i have listened most from the eurovision. I really liked the chroregraphy too. Shes swaying on the stick and still sounding awesome. Not many wouldnt probably sucess with that. Also. I hear some Kate Bush vibes in this song and Kate B is extremly good.

 

[Citelis]

She deserved better. At least a top 5.

 

[Preuss]

She deserved better. At least a top 5.

She did actually pretty well with the televote across Europe it's just the fact she didn't make it higher, it was a lot of 2 or 3 points from a lot of countries. However, fifteen juries thought she didn't deserve a single point which is :? Including the average of our own jury which is unfortunate

 

[Milos-BC]

I am listening to this wonderful song every day and I keep getting goosebumps every time


While I am super proud of what she achieved, I also feel that 9th place is too low for this amount of epicness. And I still can't get over the fact that she got nothing from our audience in the final, despite getting 7 in the semi and despite myself voting 20 times Thank God our juries had ears at least


She will always remain a true queen and diva regardless of the final result

 

[Preuss]

I am listening to this wonderful song every day and I keep getting goosebumps every time


While I am super proud of what she achieved, I also feel that 9th place is too low for this amount of epicness. And I still can't get over the fact that she got nothing from our audience in the final, despite getting 7 in the semi and despite myself voting 20 times Thank God our juries had ears at least


She will always remain a true queen and diva regardless of the final result

She was Amazing and everyone knows that she deserved better xlovw
That might be the reason why I haven't read much this year that Australia "did better than they should have" because even "haters" know she was Amazing

 

[Milos-BC]

She was Amazing and everyone knows that she deserved better xlovw
That might be the reason why I haven't read much this year that Australia "did better than they should have" because even "haters" know she was Amazing

Absolutely!


And btw, all of her ESC costs are officially covered:

This is a post form another thread here. I repost it to demonstrate that KMH receives love and support (financial) from other countries. On KMH's Australian Cultural Fund-raising page there are donations from KMH supporters in Serbia, Mexico, Russia and the UK. What kind and generous support eh? KMH and her team will land home in Australia to find that there fundraising is now fully subscribed and will be matched $1 for $1 by the fund. How good is that?

This is really nice to see!

 

[Preuss]

Absolutely!


And btw, all of her ESC costs are officially covered:




This is really nice to see!

My card was declined when I tried to donate once she'd only got 25%, but that might be because my card has restrictions on it
Anyway I'm glad she reached her goal anyway

 

[Preuss]

Watching the jury show performance of this; either they cut out the air blowing her dress up or they forgot to add it in her final performance
i bet on the last, which is a pity
camerawork when the earth disappears is bad in the grand final performance as well

edit: after watching the first semi-final jury performance as well they definitely wanted to have in their performance

 

[Loindici]

But let's think about it, if they send Electric Fields, they could very well do a Portugal and flop altogether.

And this is my point. When I tried to put this on Wiwibloggs there are folks that don't agree (resulted in -4 overall), but, well, I'm just afraid it'll go more Haba Haba than anything, really.

 

[kopachka]

This was, and still is the song I listened to the most now that ESC 19 finished. Thank you Kate for amazing gem!

 

[Preuss]

This was, and still is the song I listened to the most now that ESC 19 finished. Thank you Kate for amazing gem!

Question is who wants to come after Kate?