Israel ISRAEL 2024 - Eden Golan - Hurricane

[ESC United Mod Team]

Please keep discussion in this thread specific to Eden Golan and her song, Israel's (potential) participation in Eurovision 2024 and discussions or remarks from other countries and organisations about Israel's participation.

Any further discussion of a political or humanitarian nature not relating to specifically Israel in Eurovision 2024 needs to go into the politics sub-forum. Thank you!​

 

[Jupiter]

Shes landsliding here.

Poll: Who should win Semi-Final 2 of Eurovision 2024?

Sixteen countries will compete in the second semi-final of Eurovision 2024. Who do you want to win — and who should qualify?

wiwibloggs.com

Huh? It's Netherlands leading with 19K votes, more than double of Israel in #2.

It doesn't matter either way tho, bcs that poll looks super easy to bot/Spam.

 

[Realest]

Huh? It's Netherlands leading with 19K votes, more than double of Israel in #2.

It doesn't matter either way tho, bcs that poll looks super easy to bot/Spam.

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  ISRAEL 29.74% (3,884 VOTES)
  
  
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  NETHERLANDS 12.99% (1,696 VOTES)
  
  
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  GREECE 11.14% (1,455 VOTES)
  
  
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  SWITZERLAND 8.27% (1,080 VOTES)
  
  
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  BELGIUM 7.07% (923 VOTES)
  
  
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  NORWAY 5.8% (758 VOTES)
  
  
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  AUSTRIA 5.39% (704 VOTES)
  
  
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  GEORGIA 3.51% (459 VOTES)
  
  
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  ARMENIA 3.34% (436 VOTES)
  
  
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  DENMARK 2.66% (347 VOTES)
  
  
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  ESTONIA 2.38% (311 VOTES)
  
  
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  ALBANIA 1.88% (245 VOTES)
  
  
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  LATVIA 1.6% (209 VOTES)
  
  
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  MALTA 1.52% (199 VOTES)
  
  
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  CZECHIA 1.39% (182 VOTES)
  
  
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  SAN MARINO 1.32% (172 VOTES)
  

 

[94ayd]

Shes landsliding here.

Poll: Who should win Semi-Final 2 of Eurovision 2024?

Sixteen countries will compete in the second semi-final of Eurovision 2024. Who do you want to win — and who should qualify?

wiwibloggs.com

Yeah, because Israelis are going absolutely crazy and spamming every post and poll with how amazing their entry is...

 

[Leydan]

Yeah, because Israelis are going absolutely crazy and spamming every post and poll with how amazing their entry is...

Also on that note worth mentioning that Joost has been posting on his socials to go vote in these polls, so it's all meaningless really. Not that we didn't know that anyway.

 

[ArmpitOfEurope]

Shes landsliding here.

Poll: Who should win Semi-Final 2 of Eurovision 2024?

Sixteen countries will compete in the second semi-final of Eurovision 2024. Who do you want to win — and who should qualify?

wiwibloggs.com

wiwibloggs polls are the easiest polls to rig lol. I remember rigging those for Risky Kid and Freaky Fortune back in 2014
Eurovisionworld poll is more legit

 

[ArmpitOfEurope]

Well yeah she's winning the televoting I'm like 90% sure of it, anyone who convinced themselves that Israel would be blanked or anything are delusional. There is enough anti-Israel narrative around Europe for Israel supporters to be urged to vote for them.

Shes not winning the tele with a ballad that would normally score 50 points with the public.
Ukraine stormed the tele in 2022 with a super televote friendly song, that would have done great in the tele anyway, and with literally everyone standing on their side.
Will she get a boost in some countries from Israel supporters? Definitely. Is that boost going to be unanimous in most of the countries, so she can overcome huge tele traps like Croatia, Netherlands, Italy, Ukraine etc etc? Definitely not.
Im expecting a 80-150 tele for this

 

[musicfan]

As we can see they (not just general Israelis or supporters but those involved in the song itself) are using it as a platform and are being allowed to. Meanwhile the other side can't have a platform. How can that end well?

As I said before songs on universal topics are likely to be more interesting to more people. Plus creating a song on order to give a message is less likely to be good music.

Also let's not forget all the contestants are involved for the same reason, to get exposure and publicity for their career. None are better than others in that sense. So I find the idea that someone makes out that they compete for some higher purpose and represent all the opinions of people in their country (did they ask them all?) arrogant anyway.

 

[Realest]

Another YT-Top where she is #1.

E: Another One

 

[Charly]

Shes landsliding here.

Poll: Who should win Semi-Final 2 of Eurovision 2024?

Sixteen countries will compete in the second semi-final of Eurovision 2024. Who do you want to win — and who should qualify?

wiwibloggs.com

It's pretty obvious that the wiwi votes here are very inflated and riggable. Mass spamming from Israeli supporters at the same time the media campaigning from Joost Klein had made it inflated

Then at the same time with applied restrictions and restarting the poll fro Eurovisionworld show that wiwi results does not the reality and voting intentions

The key takeaway from Eurovisionworld is the specific restrictions such as preventing of voting your own country and I would presume ip block as a indication that you have already voted

This is where the wiwi poll does mot satisfy or reflect the true intention of who would be the possible winner in already open year

 

[Avi-Ramos]

In the news they say the fact the singer is israeli and the waves she makes, she became a no 1 target and her life is at real risk .
Maybe it's not worth it, this girl has a crazy career ahead.

 

[Jupiter]

It's pretty obvious that the wiwi votes here are very inflated and riggable. Mass spamming from Israeli supporters at the same time the media campaigning from Joost Klein had made it inflated

Then at the same time with applied restrictions and restarting the poll fro Eurovisionworld show that wiwi results does not the reality and voting intentions

The key takeaway from Eurovisionworld is the specific restrictions such as preventing of voting your own country and I would presume ip block as a indication that you have already voted

This is where the wiwi poll does mot satisfy or reflect the true intention of who would be the possible winner in already open year

And even with Eurovision World, which is already a lot better than Wiwi Bloggs, I've just seen several comments about people simply being able to vote for their own country via VPN. Some people managed to 'spam vote' to some degree too apparently

It's really something how invested some fans are, bcs personally spam vote a fan poll doesn't sound like a fun use of my time. It's surprising the Eurovision poll has been somewhat 'accurate' in past years despite that.

 

[crashworld]

These polls just don't tell you much of the reality. At most it's just give you an indication of the ESC bubble, which we know is not a big part of the general public. Just take it with a pinch of salt. Things will only start heating up during rehearsal week, so anything now till then pretty much has little impact.

 

[han-g]

Nonsense. If 2025 had the lowest number of participants, so what? ESC used to have 8 participants in 1956 and has the lowest number right this year, as usual in Malmö. Less participants, higher chances to win. And 2026 back to old form.

Haters are gonna hate on Israel because the unspeakable has now become acceptable - on the left. Whatever.

I can't write more here because your post would earn me an infringements, so yours should already earn you one.

The ebu would care. Less countries less money, less viewers less money, if many countries boycott due to an Israeli win it is possible the ebu will find a way to exclude them going forward. Of course there is no way of guaranteeing this would happen if Israel wins, but if it does it will be Israel that loses long term.

 

[ekzuu]

And I didn't even plan to vote for Israel, but now I have to, bc I wanna see the meltdown when they win???

 

[Loindici]

Looks like it ended 4-1 to Iceland. Though I've got a feeling we'll wake up tomorrow to find out that a voting app error has resulted in Iceland losing 5-4 with 5 own goals attributed to Hera Björk.

I feel it coming!

 

[Realest]

Israel would have won with Homeadvantage.

 

[cassio]

7 pts nice but nothing special

 

[BernadetteCydonia]

Israel would have won with Homeadvantage.

stop being so ridiculously stupid on everything in this thread

 

[Realest]

 

[I bims]

The current version with more subtle lyrics is actually better, lol. EBU really did them a favor by forcing them to be less blatantly manipulative.