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Dont trust them. The Songs were mostly great. I recommend you to listen to these Songs.
Is this a rip-off of insomnia by faithless ?
The draw doesn't mean a thing if you have a shit song (like UK 2023).
Edgar was 8th in the Jury ranking with 104 points. It absolutely "got some jury points at least". The big difference is in televote, where it came 22th with only 3 countries getting less points (UK, Germany, Spain) and two with the same amount (Portugal & Serbia). They came 2nd in their televote only semi (despite their apparently "awful staging & performance"). Only to finish last in televote out of all the countries that advanced from their semi to the GF.Absolutely not. It was bad staging that was also badly performed on top of it.
If it were better, it would have gotten some jury votes at least.
It's never just running order when it comes to changing over to the final though. Other countries are now voting, more people in these countries are now voting, there are more songs that can take away your votes and because there are more songs it is now harder to score points. It is impossible to judge running order on a song by just comparing semi final and final results.Edgar was 8th in the Jury ranking with 104 points. It absolutely "got some jury points at least". The big difference is in televote, where it came 22th with only 3 countries getting less points (UK, Germany, Spain) and two with the same amount (Portugal & Serbia). They came 2nd in their televote only semi (despite their apparently "awful staging & performance"). Only to finish last in televote out of all the countries that advanced from their semi to the GF.
Nobody is saying the staging was great. But trying to pretend the running order didn't hurt Austria last year at all is just silly tbh.
And I have to remember that SF2 was weak as hell: bloody Australia won it, and it finished the final with just 5 televoting points more than Teya & Salena. The only countries from SF2 finishing top 10 in the televoting in the final were two countries with a really big diaspora (Poland and Albania)It's never just running order when it comes to changing over to the final though. Other countries are now voting, more people in these countries are now voting, there are more songs that can take away your votes and because there are more songs it is now harder to score points. It is impossible to judge running order on a song by just comparing semi final and final results.
yet it lives rent free in your head since u came in hereUNFORGETTABLE
Only the thought lives in my head that Swedish music is plastic. Only a few artists are saved.yet it lives rent free in your head since u came in here
Agree, this does even less for me without the cool staging when it comes up in my Spotify playlist.Result:
Public: "Meh"
Juries: "WOW!"
Song similar to that of Ingrosso and the same path traced.
For me everything is too generic, soulless and aseptic. I don't see the song and I don't listen good voices... a terrible product.
In general I agree with those who say that Sweden focuses on finished packages (more oriented towards staging) and knows how to present the little it does without flaws and elevate it. However, I would add that without the favorable jury votes, sometimes he would have risked bottom 5 or not won at all.
At the end
Unfortunately I think that Sweden as the host country and always the juries' favorite nation will make the Top 10 and throw out a more deserving nation. I see the ghost of Benjamin Ingrosso loomingAgree, this does even less for me without the cool staging when it comes up in my Spotify playlist.
I don't think this song will go down well with the public at all, regardless of running order. I think it's generic, dull, and the performers IMO are weak despite the high-tech staging.
I really hope the juries don't heavily reward this, for the reasons above.