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The Netherlands NETHERLANDS 2024 - Joost Klein - Europapa
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Take my biggest 
of the season Papa Joost 
This is my new leader and i think it's time to throw in the Personal W****r word in
Given that Windows95man was "only" my 2nd place in UMK behind Cyan Kicks, it would feel really weird if he held the lead unttil the end. There had to be something brewing in other countries that would make me fully invested in. My gut feeling did not disappoint me. In the past few days i was hyping up myself by his song "Wachtmuziek" on repeat hoping that it will be at least as good and he delivered!
I was excited and smiling throughout the song on the very first listen but the hard bass at the end took it to the next level. 2024 is all about the 90s coming back and My top 3 at the moment reflcets that. It's almost creepy if you think about it
of the season Papa Joost This is my new leader and i think it's time to throw in the Personal W****r word in
Given that Windows95man was "only" my 2nd place in UMK behind Cyan Kicks, it would feel really weird if he held the lead unttil the end. There had to be something brewing in other countries that would make me fully invested in. My gut feeling did not disappoint me. In the past few days i was hyping up myself by his song "Wachtmuziek" on repeat hoping that it will be at least as good and he delivered!
I was excited and smiling throughout the song on the very first listen but the hard bass at the end took it to the next level. 2024 is all about the 90s coming back and My top 3 at the moment reflcets that. It's almost creepy if you think about it
BorisBubbles
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I hope this is sarcasm. (there's no telling with you Germans.)The first two lines:
"Europe, let's come together" (+ many EU flags in the music video): advocating for countries to join the EU
"It's now or never" (could be read as "now" before the ruZZian Empire invades you)
Other lines:
"Welcome to Europa, stay here until you die" (could be levelling criticism at the EU in general)
"Fortunately don't need a visa to be with you" (supporting the idea of the Schengen area - mocking countries like
"So take the bus to Poland or the train to Berlin" (indicating that German trains are superior to Polish ones - that Poland's infrastructure isn't as advanced and modern as in other parts in Europe so that visitors have to take a bus instead)
So many political lines before the first chorus occurs....
EBU in shambles.
RainyWoods
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"Europapa" is more political than that song about "dancing" (the 2nd option recorded by Eden which allegedly got rejected by the EBU as well)
So technically, it's not a joke just to be "funny" - it's about how the EBU applies double standards when it comes to the lyrics/messages of songs coming from different countries (and some fans follow them).
The first two lines:
"Europe, let's come together" (+ many EU flags in the music video): advocating for countries to join the EU
"It's now or never" (could be read as "now" before the ruZZian Empire invades you)
Other lines:
"Welcome to Europa, stay here until you die" (could be levelling criticism at the EU in general)
"Fortunately don't need a visa to be with you" (supporting the idea of the Schengen area - mocking countries like
"So take the bus to Poland or the train to Berlin" (indicating that German trains are superior to Polish ones - that Poland's infrastructure isn't as advanced and modern as in other parts in Europe so that visitors have to take a bus instead)
So many political lines before the first chorus occurs....
EBU in shambles.
What I need to know though is was the line about fish and chips a complimentary one or were they mocking the English delicacy? I will adjust my score accordingly.
Nelisa
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It's enjoyable for all the wrong reasons. It's giving another child of Käärijä effect, but the rave part is cute.
Don't battle this one out over the Dutch entry, it doesn't help your case as you think it does in all honesty. Coming from someone who agrees that I do not see any real grounds for the EBU to ban the second Israeli song based on the lyrics I've read, but I can also see why that is a totally different case than this is.
Hahahahaha
If you want to know, Joost sings that he doesn't want any escargots or fish and chips, that's basically it
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I was being sarcastic, obviously.
I genuinely apologise (but I really don't) to let the burst of my German sense of humour explode in this thread.
(but yeah, I was also trying to point out that this entry is as "political" as Eden's second song).
In today's world, we could read many politicial subtexts in such songs and they somehow exist in here too (if you really want to interpret these lines that way).
Anyway, I'll keep my fingers crossed for to reach the GF - it's a lovely fun entry.
I genuinely apologise (but I really don't) to let the burst of my German sense of humour explode in this thread.
(but yeah, I was also trying to point out that this entry is as "political" as Eden's second song).
In today's world, we could read many politicial subtexts in such songs and they somehow exist in here too (if you really want to interpret these lines that way).
Anyway, I'll keep my fingers crossed for
to reach the GF - it's a lovely fun entry.
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You are right the EBU should remove this song on the basis of misinformation as no sane individual would praise Deutsche Bahn
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Joost is comparing escargots and fish and chips and put them on the same level?!?!
@RainyWoods he's really mocking the British
oh and if we think of not wanting "escargots" (France) and "fish and chips" (UK), we could interpret as the
(a country in which a right-wing politican won the latest election) not wanting to be influenced by foreign politics (OK. I will stop now... I drank too many espressi.. [thank you Italy and shame on Joost for not referring to the excellent and divine taste of
coffee culture).Joost is comparing escargots and fish and chips and put them on the same level?!?!
@RainyWoods he's really mocking the British
Well to be fair, if it would give any comfort, the next line is that he doesn't want any paella because he doesn't even know what that is
So the Spanish have it worse!!!! @RainyWoods
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astatine86
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Enough with these annoying joke entries with 'depth' behind them. I'm so tired. I want my Eurovision back
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We literally had a whole ass songs about Charlie Chaplin, Mary Magdalene and whoever Mrs Thompson was.
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I know that songs about other people/artists/historical figures are quite common but I couldn't think of ESC entries actually referring/mentioning song titles but here we go:
We're sorry for that one.
Forbes - Beatles - Sweden - Eurovision Song Contest 1977
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Oh! Never heard that entry! I guess I need to check some of the older and less known entries
Sabrewulf238
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I feel like it's better than No Rules but that isn't saying much. I'd give it a .
It does seem like Finland and Netherlands will be competing against each other for a similar audience...
.It does seem like Finland and Netherlands will be competing against each other for a similar audience...