EUROVISION 2020 - General Discussion Thread

[escYOUnited]

Please post any and all discussions regarding the contest itself, host country and city, organisation, rumours and other topics not related to any specific country's selection process.

 

[popavapeur]

I actually think it's pretty unfair.

But at this point some broadcasters (yes SVT i'm talking about you) are making big money with their annual contest and not holding it it's just pure lost of money.

It's the most """fair""" situation I could find. But I'm afraid even though the 2021winner is obviously better, people would vote for the 2020 to let it participate at it should have been.

 

[LastDreamer]

meanwhile at LastDreamer's house:

 

[Leydan]

Eurovision is the top 2 trends on twitter in the UK, on the news etc.

 

[Loindici]

Eurovision is the top 2 trends on twitter in the UK, on the news etc.

Which kinds of trends, though?

 

[tuorem]

hold a 2021 edition and make a live voting between Melfest 2020 and 2021winners. The winner of this mega superfinal goes to ESC2021

And then Dotter comes back stronger, making fans all over Europe swoon, only to be defeated again at the last minute by the Mamas and "Move" I'd bring the popcorn.

 

[Yazy]

One good thing about this situation is that people can now stop crying about their favorites not winning the national finals.

None of it matters in the end.

 

[mauve]

One good thing about this situation is that people can now stop crying about their favorites not winning the national finals.

None of it matters in the end.

We'll cry again next year, I guess.

 

[Nemo89]

I hope the artists can be the same for next year, it's only right and fair, this situation sucks any way, but out of all the bad options, I would really like to see that. But I also expect and hope they will have new songs.

I, on the other hand, hope that each country will always choose the songs based on the national festival. I think that if Diodato (excellent artist like the other 40 performers) brings another song, the risk of failure increases. Diodato was perfect for "Fai rumore". Then ... if Diodato also wins "Sanremo 2021" and brings another great song I say "Ok" and I will support for him.

I believe that many nations that knew they could not win or enter the "Top 10" are breathing a sigh of relief as nations that had a good chance are regretting this canceled edition.

I hope Europe wins the health challenge. This is more important. Then, if the ESC committee decides to do a competition "behind closed doors" or online I will be very happy.

 

[Daybreak]

From the EBU FAQ:

Will the selected artists be able to perform their songs next year?
This is to be discussed with the Reference Group and the participating broadcasters and a decision will be communicated later.

Official EBU statement & FAQ on Eurovision 2020 cancellation

The official statement from the EBU on the Eurovision Song Contest 2020 cancellation and Frequently Asked Questions.

eurovision.tv

 

[alca]

This is a very sad day and the darkest page in the history of the contest. I'm heartbroken.

 

[hijirio]

Why couldn’t you have held the show remotely?
It’s in the DNA of the Eurovision Song Contest to bring delegations, artists and fans together in one place and provide an equal platform for all artists to compete together on the same stage and the same opportunity to shine. We felt that under the extreme circumstances we face this year, organizing the Eurovision Song Contest in another way would not be in keeping with our values and the tradition of the event.

Cancelling the contest is keeping with the tradition of the event??????

 

[hijirio]

My dramatic ass:

 

[EscGeek]

If some countries like Estonia want to be jerks and have a new national selection in 2021, fine. But EBU should definitely allow selected songs from this year.

 

[Eulaliya]

Guys, I know our Molitva didn't help and at the moment we can't Believe our eyes, the eyes that are crying Only Teardrops with the whole world Running Scared right now.
What we thought would become a Fairytale was not meant to be, not even in the shape of us coming together via a Satellite connection.
Although we feel like small town boys in a big Arcade, we must move forward, while not forgetting the Heroes of 1944 2020.
We need to show we're not grief's Toy: next year we will Rise Like a Phoenix out of the ashes.
In the meantime we hold tight onto eachother by Amar pelos dois and next year we will reach Euphoria again!



(credits to whoever made this beautiful poem.)

 

[randajad]

I wa

Why couldn’t you have held the show remotely?
It’s in the DNA of the Eurovision Song Contest to bring delegations, artists and fans together in one place and provide an equal platform for all artists to compete together on the same stage and the same opportunity to shine. We felt that under the extreme circumstances we face this year, organizing the Eurovision Song Contest in another way would not be in keeping with our values and the tradition of the event.

Cancelling the contest is keeping with the tradition of the event??????

It could be easily done as in the early years, small venue, one or two cameras and just singers, and I would live for it.

And it could be easily done at a later date.

 

[Ezio]

Capricorn really is the least fun of all signs of the Zodiac. Right now, we have the three powerhouses Jupiter, Saturn and Pluto in Capricorn, also Mars and today the Moon. This is Capricorn on acid crack. Capricorn takes the fun away for the sake of responsibility. It is unprecedent that Eurovision Song Contest, but other events of arts, sports and entertainment are also cancelled vigorously.

The Pluto-Saturn conjunction in Capricorn end of December 2019 to end of January 2019 kicked of the pandemic in the first place. The plutonic powerplanet stands for anything that scares us collectively and makes us feel powerless and Saturn always teaches tough lessons and asks uncomfortable questions. Together they make us feel feeble and crawl on our knees until we learn the tough lesson. Respect the planet, respect each other, respect your elders. While we are lost in Corona, our planet is recovering from pollution in the air and in the water, from mass tourism, transportation, etc. Massive Pluto aspects usually turn our lives upside down. When Pluto in the sign of travel Sagittarius opposed Saturn in the sign of commerce in 2001, hijacked planes crashed into the World Trade Center and sent us into the era of International terror. In 2008, when Saturn in the sign of the duly diligent Virgo, who always keeps her books in order, opposed shock actor Uranus in the immaterial and dreamy sign of Pisces, while Pluto transited from the everything is possible sign of Sagitarrius to the responsible and conservative sign of Capricorn, the bloated financial system crashed and sent World economy to Hell.

So, I would have never thought that Eurovision is something that would be cancelled like so. But in 2020 it makes the most sense, because astrologers already predicted life changing events in some form beforehand and Capricorn in its responsible way of thinking does not like distractions in the form of entertainment and "nonsense".

At least, next year promises more fun. Jupiter and Saturn in Aquarius will make up for many losses we suffer this year. 2021 looks like fun and dope and we will deserve it after all. Eurovision 2021 is gonna be remembered..

 

[Chrisiam]

Capricorn really is the least fun of all signs of the Zodiac. Right now, we have the three powerhouses Jupiter, Saturn and Pluto in Capricorn, also Mars and today the Moon. This is Capricorn on acid crack. Capricorn takes the fun away for the sake of responsibility. It is unprecedent that Eurovision Song Contest, but other events of arts, sports and entertainment are also cancelled vigorously.

The Pluto-Saturn conjunction in Capricorn end of December 2019 to end of January 2019 kicked of the pandemic in the first place. The plutonic powerplanet stands for anything that scares us collectively and makes us feel powerless and Saturn always teaches tough lessons and asks uncomfortable questions. Together they make us feel feeble and crawl on our knees until we learn the tough lesson. Respect the planet, respect each other, respect your elders. While we are lost in Corona, our planet is recovering from pollution in the air and in the water, from mass tourism, transportation, etc. Massive Pluto aspects usually turn our lives upside down. When Pluto in the sign of travel Sagittarius opposed Saturn in the sign of commerce in 2001, hijacked planes crashed into the World Trade Center and sent us into the era of International terror. In 2008, when Saturn in the sign of the duly diligent Virgo, who always keeps her books in order, opposed shock actor Uranus in the immaterial and dreamy sign of Pisces, while Pluto transited from the everything is possible sign of Sagitarrius to the responsible and conservative sign of Capricorn, the bloated financial system crashed and sent World economy to Hell.

So, I would have never thought that Eurovision is something that would be cancelled like so. But in 2020 it makes the most sense, because astrologers already predicted life changing events in some form beforehand and Capricorn in its responsible way of thinking does not like distractions in the form of entertainment and "nonsense".

At least, next year promises more fun. Jupiter and Saturn in Aquarius will make up for many losses we suffer this year. 2021 looks like fun and dope and we will deserve it after all. Eurovision 2021 is gonna be remembered..

Whilst reading that I just had the chanting bit of the Cleopatra track looping around in my head

 

[Ezio]

That's great. I just don't relate to the Cleopatra song, because I already completely forgot it.

 

[tuorem]

@Ezio If famous astrologer Aisel were there, she'd say Luna mooned us down big time

 

[Zeus]

Capricorn really is the least fun of all signs of the Zodiac. Right now, we have the three powerhouses Jupiter, Saturn and Pluto in Capricorn, also Mars and today the Moon. This is Capricorn on acid crack. Capricorn takes the fun away for the sake of responsibility. It is unprecedent that Eurovision Song Contest, but other events of arts, sports and entertainment are also cancelled vigorously.

The Pluto-Saturn conjunction in Capricorn end of December 2019 to end of January 2019 kicked of the pandemic in the first place. The plutonic powerplanet stands for anything that scares us collectively and makes us feel powerless and Saturn always teaches tough lessons and asks uncomfortable questions. Together they make us feel feeble and crawl on our knees until we learn the tough lesson. Respect the planet, respect each other, respect your elders. While we are lost in Corona, our planet is recovering from pollution in the air and in the water, from mass tourism, transportation, etc. Massive Pluto aspects usually turn our lives upside down. When Pluto in the sign of travel Sagittarius opposed Saturn in the sign of commerce in 2001, hijacked planes crashed into the World Trade Center and sent us into the era of International terror. In 2008, when Saturn in the sign of the duly diligent Virgo, who always keeps her books in order, opposed shock actor Uranus in the immaterial and dreamy sign of Pisces, while Pluto transited from the everything is possible sign of Sagitarrius to the responsible and conservative sign of Capricorn, the bloated financial system crashed and sent World economy to Hell.

So, I would have never thought that Eurovision is something that would be cancelled like so. But in 2020 it makes the most sense, because astrologers already predicted life changing events in some form beforehand and Capricorn in its responsible way of thinking does not like distractions in the form of entertainment and "nonsense".

At least, next year promises more fun. Jupiter and Saturn in Aquarius will make up for many losses we suffer this year. 2021 looks like fun and dope and we will deserve it after all. Eurovision 2021 is gonna be remembered..

Ehhm, I would kindly suggest to check your temperature and maybe consider two weeks quarantaine..