Croatia CROATIA 2023 - Let 3 - Mama ŠČ!

[ESC United Mod Team]

 

[HarryUK]

Is the lead 'singer' (if that's the word for it ) meant to be a cross between Putin & Hitler? I'm getting that from the moustache but also the makeup - Putin was mocked online by people 'dragging' him up before & I got that vibe... Then the rocket man at the end, is that Kim Jong Un? I'm honestly becoming more and more in love with this!

 

[Elina UA]

And 24 points from Ukraine goes to... Croatia!
It gives such an old Eurovision quirky entry vibe. Kinda retro-futuristic.

 

[Flamenkax]

This goes all the way, a bit messy but i think... i quite like it ? I'm a bit confused tbh, don't know what note i'll give it to.

 

[Slabsson79]

And 24 points from Ukraine goes to... Croatia!
It gives such an old Eurovision quirky entry vibe. Kinda retro-futuristic.

Seems like your DQ-urge against "political" entries is highly selective because this is a "political" entry allright. Double standards alert

 

[Slabsson79]

OK. I think I will have to think about this song a bit longer. I cannot really decide....

Ok. I like it. I know I should not, as Croatia should do much better, but I like it. But it is definitely not the direction the ESC should be heading imho.


ŠČ!

 

[MopManMoss]

This will kill the honest vocal coach on the spot

 

[Gogerko]

Our best entry since 1999 ♥
For the first time I'm sure we are qualifying.
TRAKTORAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

 

[Elina UA]

Seems like your DQ-urge against "political" entries is highly selective because this is a "political" entry allright. Double standards alert

I never said I am personally against political entries, my dear.
But this is a great excuse to disqualify entries that are harmful to my nation.

 

[njdevils94]

And 24 points from Ukraine goes to... Croatia!
It gives such an old Eurovision quirky entry vibe. Kinda retro-futuristic.

We love a hypocrite.

 

[Elina UA]

"That short psychopath,
Mama I'm going to war
ŠČ"

Finally. A Slavic entry I can get behind.

 

[bstream]

The moment I saw the first five seconds I knew “oh, this? this is going to divide the forum”

 

[Ezio]

Euro Neuro and I’m a Joker are having a stillborn.

 

[HarryUK]

This will kill the honest vocal coach on the spot

I keep refreshing her channel

 

[PolarFoxxie.]

Is the lead 'singer' (if that's the word for it ) meant to be a cross between Putin & Hitler? I'm getting that from the moustache but also the makeup - Putin was mocked online by people 'dragging' him up before & I got that vibe... Then the rocket man at the end, is that Kim Jong Un? I'm honestly becoming more and more in love with this!

No rocket ma is apparently stallin Oder Lenin.

 

[HarryUK]

No rocket ma is apparently stallin Oder Lenin.

Ooooh Lenin!!! It was the all black outfit that made me think otherwise

 

[PolarFoxxie.]

Most of the troll acts fail miserably in Eurovision. Only few of them survive like Verka, but that was fun and musically
miles better than whatever this is. I can't even call it a song. It's just mockery to Eurovision as contest.

 

[PollyWantsACracker]

We love a hypocrite.

I'm not into debate on Czech entry, but Vesna's and Let 3's songs deal with the same subject on diametrical opposite positions.

Let 3 slams women for supporting tyranny and war through their mindset and upbringing. "Mama / Armageddon Granny, loved a moron", they say. Then the son proceeds "Mama I'm going to play, Mama I'm going to war".

Let 3 is, let's say, more honest. Thus, there's no hypocrisy when you support those who speak the truth. As Mama ŠČ negates the whole hypothesis of "sisterhood" in wartime, I get why @Elina UA can stand behind this song, and not the other. Calling her hypocritical for that is not very on point, or at all.

I could even advance with saying that the comment is distasteful as Elina spends her days in shelters, under bombs and ballistic missiles, seeing dead people every day. You don't. So you should maybe think twice before calling her war related experiences and views "hypocritical". Be humane. You can't understand her and be thankful you will not ever be in a position to understand her. I'm saying this as someone who was in her position 20 or more years ago.

 

[PollyWantsACracker]

Ooooh Lenin!!! It was the all black outfit that made me think otherwise

The guy in black was dressed as an orthodox priest or mystic like Rasputin, threatening all with nuclear missiles.

One orthodox priest in particular comes to our minds.

 

[HarryUK]

The guy in black was dressed as an orthodox priest or mystic like Rasputin, threatening all with nuclear missiles.

One in particular comes to our minds.

I am obsessed

 

[ag89]

Great job, Croatia. This is the first time since, I don't know when, that we have a no-vanilla song from Croatia. It is irrelevant to me how this will finish, I am happy to see this creates discussions. For those of you claiming this should be disqualified just because it is not comfortable for your eyes and ears: please, relax. Also, how suddenly a song that discusses some political issues is a problem? We have had these songs before although with completely different esthetics and sounds. I am also glad Croatia is finally sending an established act known for a long time.

Yes, the song (and the band itself) is controversial, but this band has been known for such stuff and they will not change for Euro fans.

On Dora, it was super boring and I hope Let 3 motivates HRT and singers/bands to participate, it is just a non-event year after year. I don't expect all crazy stuff to be there, but it was almost impossible to pay attention of any of the acts we saw last night so I am not surprised both juries and televote voted for this.