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midnightsun

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I wouldn’t give a sh... about betting odds in Eurovision because it’s rigged! Not rigged in the usual sense but betting in Eurovision is a self fulfilling prophecy!

The higher the songs in the betting odds the more juries will vote for it (In general. Not in every case. I made a posting here about that a few years ago when I compared the betting odds with the final jury ranks of the past years).

Juries always tend to make safe choices because, you know, since their results are made public they are a bit afraid to stand out.

This year I have a feeling it could be different for the first time. Of course, juries will vote for the usual suspects (aka rank 1-5 in the betting odds) but I suppose we will have some surprises this year because I feel there‘s a different atmosphere this year.

You can already tell by the choice of songs that many countries do their thing, didn’t send typical winning material and didn’t even try. We didn’t have such a variety of genres and musical throwbacks in decades!
And this spirit will certainly influence juries this year. I‘m pretty sure they will be courageous enough this year to vote for outstanding songs because it’s a special year. A year where winning isn’t the most important.
 

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The betting odds are rigging the running order after all.

Cesar Sampson got the same amount of televotes than Netta in Semi 1, but was pushed to the wrong end of the running order and got lost in the recency bias in the Grand Final, just because his betting odds were poor.
 

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The odds have a new leader - Switzerland has overtaken Iceland!
 

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Norway jumped over San Marino and Finland to #10 spot. Stone Cold Steve Austin would say "WHAT!".
 

heke1988

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:mt: took 1 place from :ch:.
 

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Now that Belarus is finally out, these are the official first complete Betting Odds of the Season.

1Malta Destiny - Je Me Casse16%4.334.254.254.54.5443.54.54.54.255.24.54.555.45.4
2Switzerland Gjon's Tears - Tout l'univers14%4.335555.5665.543.854.256.35.5567.27.2
3France Barbara Pravi - Voilà10%7.588777767.57.5787778.28.2
4Bulgaria Victoria - Growing Up Is Getting Old8%910109109108881011910111313
5Italy Måneskin - Zitti e buoni7%10111110991010101010111010111313
6Sweden Tusse - Voices7%1210101111131110101012131010111414
7Lithuania The Roop - Discoteque5%1515151517171914151515191515151719
8Iceland Daði & Gagnamagnið - 10 Years5%1515151517171318171719171217131717
9Cyprus Elena Tsagrinou - El Diablo3%2926262026212625262634202326263032
10Finland Blind Channel - Dark Side2%3421212534263425343434282629343640
11San Marino Senhit - Adrenalina2%4134343534263425313134332626262936
12Norway TIX - Fallen Angel2%3434343034263425313134322934343040
13Russia Manizha - Russian Woman2%4141414034344125343434423434414040
14Greece Stefania - Last Dance2%4151514051414125414151453441344444
15Moldova Natalia Gordienko - Sugar2%4151514541345125414134505141516065
16Romania Roxen - Amnesia1%5151516551515150515167505151517070
17Azerbaijan Efendi - Mata Hari1%816767708151815041415160815167120130
18Belgium Hooverphonic - The Wrong Place1%718181100816781756767101808151101120130
19Croatia Albina - Tick-Tock1%126818175815181756767101808167101140150
20Ukraine Go_A - Shum1%101818185678181758181101808151101150160
21United Kingdom James Newman - Embers1%1011011011001015110175818110110012651101200200
22Australia Montaigne - Technicolour1%15167671501518110175101101101100151101101280290
23Austria Vincent Bueno - Amen1%15110110112010110110110010182101150151101101280300
24Israel Eden Alene - Set Me Free1%201151151200176101101100151151101150126101101100100
25Latvia Samanta Tīna - The Moon Is Rising1%201101101150126101151100101101101120251101101500640
26Portugal The Black Mamba - Love Is On My Side1%20110110120020112615175126126101150201101101300360
27Denmark Fyr & Flamme - Øve os på hinanden<1%2018181200201126101100151151101150251101101300350
28Ireland Lesley Roy - Maps<1%15115115115015112615110012612610120025167101300410
29Poland Rafał - The Ride<1%20110110115020115112675101101101120301101101500810
30Netherlands J. Macrooy - Birth of a New Age<1%201101101200151151101100126126101120251151101500710
31Germany Jendrik - I Don't Feel Hate<1%20115115120017612615110084101101200251151101300400
32North Macedonia Vasil - Here I Stand<1%201201201200201126101100101101101200251126101300410
33Serbia Hurricane - Loco Loco<1%20115115120012615115175126126101200251101101500710
34Georgia Tornike Kipiani - You<1%201151151200151151101100126126101150251151101500880
35Estonia Uku Suviste - The Lucky One<1%201151151175251151151100151151101200301151101500560
36Slovenia Ana Soklič - Amen<1%201201201200201201201100151151101200301251101300410
37Czech Republic Benny Cristo - Omaga<1%201151151200251151201100151151101200301251101500750
38Spain Blas Cantó - Voy a quedarme<1%201151151200251201251100151151101200301251101500800
39Albania Anxhela Peristeri - Karma<1%251251251250251201251100201201101200301251101500940
 

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I still can't bear that the producers are allowed to organise the running order, and like some have mentioned, CLEARLY give the betting odds favourites the best places towards the end of the first or second half. It's so unfair to other entries. I'm completely happy with random order.

A prime example of this is Sweden. Not once have they been placed in the first 5 songs in the last ten years when they have drawn the first half, and they have usually been really high in the betting odds.

I think the producers should place the top 3 bookies favourites as the first 3 songs. THEN we will see if the running order doesn't make a difference. (Obviously this will never happen!), Would be interesting tho!
 
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@Realest Do you know how Azerbaijan 2011 ranked before the final?

I only found this:

The full odds for Eurovision 2011 are:

6/4 France, 11/4 Ireland, 10/1 Azerbaijan, 10/1 UK, 12/1 Denmark, 14/1 Estonia, 16/1 Bosnia Herzegovina, 18/1 Sweden, 20/1 Austria, 20/1 Germany, 22/1 Finland, 22/1 Hungary, 50/1 Iceland, 50/1 Ukraine, 66/1 Georgia, 66/1 Russia, 80/1 Slovenia, 100/1 Serbia, 100/1 Switzerland, 100/1 Romania, 125/1 Greece, 125/1 Italy, 150/1 Moldova, 200/1 Lithuania, 200/1 Spain.
 

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Albania was 38th????? :eek: Holy Moly, never thought that. Or Germany 18th when it was 4th in the end. Cyprus 23th in the end 2nd, Betting odds can be really confusing.
 
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