Well I needed more songs to hate this year... :? Sad that Mariette didn't win, ofc, and feel that Sweden the international juries made a bad choice, but that's my personal opinion and nothing more is being insinuated from it. I frankly don't really care how a particular country does in ESK; I just want songs I like. Maybe it'll do well, maybe it won't, but I will not be supporting the song one iota.
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To be honest, and I'm not trying to be mean or petty here, but I am quite surprised at your revealed age when you seem to clearly lack such basic concepts as different tastes. That the majority of the voting public agrees with the result means nothing. That the members of a forum think differently means nothing. That one song gets millions of votes from millions of people means nothing. It doesn't make a song any better or any worse based on that. You remind me a bit of a member here on the forum we had a few years ago who argued that Euphoria was universally clearly the best winner and best song of Eurovision since it had the most views on YouTube.OH come on... there are a LOT of diehard Eurovision fans that have the same taste as the rest of the general public. And there is a lot of ESC-fans who just want to make a mess of everything, especially those ESC-fans from countries outside the EBU who can't even vote (and there is a LOT of them)...
This forum is nice but that's all. They don't have a clue.
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OK, but what song of the 28 songs in this Melfest DID you like? That would be more interesting to know then what song you didnt like.
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Axel Schylström! xrockout
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OK, but what song of the 28 songs in this Melfest DID you like? That would be more interesting to know then what song you didnt like.
I didn't follow Melodifestivalen. I just watched bits of it and a few songs, Nano, Mariette, Wiktoria, Loreen and De vet Du. None of them were my cup of tea, but I would only rate with zero De vet Du and Robin.
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No, I'm not that member since I didn´t like Euphoria, but I liked Statement.
But that is not even a case right now. Several of the ESCunited-members have liked your comments when you say that "a lot of diehard Eurovision fans might have a different taste than the general public due to a lot of factors, that's all". But a lot of thoose diehard Eurovision fans liked Wiktoria and hated Jon Henrik. So HOW are they more important then thoose who liked Robin in Sweden? Wiktoria is just as easy a typical "Swedish majority voting" as Robin...HatarWebbsidor
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Who said they were more important? I think everyone's taste/opinion is as valid as the next person's. Whether they live within the EBU area or not. Whether they're a forumer or televoting public. You're the one that seems to make a distinction between people and their importance...No, I'm not that member since I didn´t like Euphoria, but I liked Statement.
Belgium? The song is great but it doesn't have a winner song climax and the singer is just boring and un-charismatic.
Portugal is not for everyone. There's no way it can win, it can be high but no. Nobody joined Francesco up till now.
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OK, so you didn't like any songs. Is that your point????
My point is very simple and I think it was clear in my first message, as I rated it with zero. I don't like the winning song regardless of the other entries.
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But since we introduce the IJ Sweden won 2 times and been top 3-5 several times. And this songs has been favourites with the juries. So of course it is a good sign if people from other countries actually like the song. Robin also won the international votes that was held on SVT website before the final, and this was not the same peoples as the official IJ.
Gosh Sweden first you let go of my favourite of this years whole MF, Running with Lions, and then.. well I can't blame you as Wiktoria ended up second with the televote, but then the IJ killed off my second favourite, resulting in my least favourite entry of the final and somewhere near the bottom in the whole thing going to Kyiv .
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Well, when YOU say things like "the majority of the voters" then all of the non-EBU-voters doesnt have a vote. Isn't that a valid point??? At the same time you say that "there is no distiction between people and their importance"... so what you really are saying is that the right song won, but you dont really want to acknowledge it. WHY? Since, the majority wanted it?
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Upon reflection, I realized that maybe this song as terrible as I originally thought it was. The staging and production design are among the best I've seen, and Robin seems like a great guy. The song itself is extremely repetitive, but at least it's energetic and not a dry ballad.
Changed my 0 to a 4!
Changed my 0 to a 4!
I just think a country should send what is liked most among its citizens, and not a song that is preferred by international juries (a.k.a random people of Armenia, Cyprus.. really?), even if that means there's a chance the song will do worse. 
Especially in this occasion in which the opinion of the IJ is way different than the opinion of the Swedish people. The televoting should at least have a bigger say in the decision.
Especially in this occasion in which the opinion of the IJ is way different than the opinion of the Swedish people. The televoting should at least have a bigger say in the decision.
Huh? How on earth did your mind arrive at that conclusion?
I don't personally think there is or should be a distinction between people and their importance in terms of opinions and tastes. I'm only talking about tastes and opinions here, not how big their influence should or shouldn't be on the final official result. You seem to think that deviating tastes and opinions don't or shouldn't matter if the general public thinks one way. For me, personally, the right winner will only ever be the song I like the most, since I can only speak for me and my taste and opinion. So no, the right song did not win.