Spain SPAIN 2025 - Melody - Esa Diva

[ESC United Mod Team]

 

[blue00eyes]

10 televoting points is too harsh. She is a brilliant performer, song a bit old-fashioned but it all worked together and it was very eurovision

 

[Alsou4ever]

I'm soooooo happy our song tanked hard so that 'slay, queen' Spanish fans can see that old-fashioned trash does not score well. I will truly enjoy the season until next BF watching people complain about how Europe does not vote for us, when the reality is that Europe does not vote for crap like ours this year.

I even feel unfair that Iceland finished lower than us, bc it was a way greater song!!!!!

Melody talifans, enjoy the result

I do love Melody as a person, I really do. She has been invited many times to participate in different NF or even as the selected candidate, but her style is truly outdated. So it is our delegation's sense of music.

I am a bit concerned about their future moves, as many changes are taking place in RTVE. I don't know if it would be possible to recover Eva Mora (Chanel and Blanca Paloma's benefactor) but it would help to obtain a top 15, at least.

The truth is that Spain has a problem with its music industry, which is really influenced by Latin american sounds right now. Reggaeton, trap, all this kind of genres are not welcomed in Europe, I am afraid.

 

[Ajeje Brazorf]

I predicted some juries would have liked it and... um yeah, some juries actually liked it. See, the song was, let's say, not the best. But she was good vocally and her sassiness was on point with the meaning of the song. Not a great result, but not a bad attempt either by Spain.

 

[Matze38]

Melody deserved better, but I could totally understand the score. I'm curious to see if some of those 10 points came from ROW.

RTVE must reformulate Benidorm Fest.

It was nothing new, I felt like I had heard it 100 times.

 

[blue00eyes]

People dislike strong independent women, they prefer feminine men instead

 

[Decayingbooks]

People dislike strong independent women, they prefer feminine men instead

Red Sebastian and Adonxs would disagree...

 

[FitzyUK]

Just feels as if Spain send the same thing every year. Its catchy but can see why it did not do as well.

 

[astatine86]

Someone posted this on reddit regarding Spain and I could not agree more.

I think Spain's problem is that the majority of Benidorm Fest voters are gay men and they keep heavily voting for some niche songs like Zorra and Esa Diva that will appeal only to a very specific and limited audience (that is gay men like themselves). Spain could have gotten much better results if you guys sent St. Pedro and J Kbello in the last 2 years.

As someone who lives in Spain I am quite baffled by this as the people around me seem to think they pick the best possible entries and while they seem to realize they may not do well with said entries, it doesn't stop them from complaining that Europe doesn't get them once it's all over. It's really not that deep. Sending something current that appeals to both the gays and the casual viewers is the key. Chanel did it perfectly and I bet my hat JKbello would have done amazing this year had he been chosen. He's good looking, a great dances, the vocals are just fine and the song is current. Read the room (Europe), dear Spain.

 

[Alsou4ever]

St Pedro didn't sing that well live (and he was my fave) and J Kabello was highly supported by gay men, as Melody. The thing is Melody had a bigger fanbase than the rest, who were amateur. That helped her to win televotote and SMS voting. Benifest itself is already a niche festival with shitty songs that you can only listen in LGBT parades.

About the jury, it happened a weird thing. Other people won their semis but Melody won the final jury voting, as a consensus winner, I guess. You know how crazy some eurofans are in Spain, they didn't want problems with the audience

 

[Decayingbooks]

About the jury, it happened a weird thing. Other people won their semis but Melody won the final jury voting, as a consensus winner, I guess. You know how crazy some eurofans are in Spain, they didn't want problems with the audience

You're misremembering it. On semi1 La Chispa won the jury vote, semi1 it was Mel Ömana and in the final it was J Kbello with 74 points, with Daniela Blasco got 71 points from the judges and Melody 70 points. It hasn't consensual and I remmember people saying that the small marging between the top3 may have been intentional to leave the final decision(and responsability) to the public, similarly with the draw between St Pedro and Nebulossa the previous year.

 

[Alsou4ever]

Oh yes you're right!!! but that decision had to do with the backlash that judges suffered after Benifest 1, when Chanel won the jury and Tanxugueiras won the televote. (let's remember that people supported Rigoberta Bandini and Tanxugueiras)

 

[nudiecrudi]

I've written this so many times.
It is not the fault of Melody or Zorra or Blanca Paloma because Spain is getting low positions, Chanel was simply an accident.
The main problem is the artistic direction. Who decides the selection of the songs should follow more the direction of Sanremo or Fdc than MelFest or other Nordic selections.
If you try to imitate MelFest, what they are doing now, then you'll get heavy stagings, wigs, dancers, huge nails, wind machines etc. But they aren't able to do it better than the Nordics do so the results are far lower of expectations.
Benidorm should find its identity.

 

[shameless]

People dislike strong independent women, they prefer feminine men instead

Justyna Steczkowska begs to differ. Also the female half from Albania, albeit in a mixed duo, came across as quiet independent and strong.
What this year showed I think people are just not too convince by the style Melody, Erika Vikman and Mirjana Conté display. Of course Canel and Noa Kirel were top 3 not too long ago but they still delivered incredible dance performances and had somewhat more modern songs that did not rely too much on the gimmick aspect.

 

[Sammy]

Red Sebastian and Adonxs would disagree...

As well as Erika Vikman and Justyna Steczkovska.

 

[MAD20]

Someone posted this on reddit regarding Spain and I could not agree more.

I think Spain's problem is that the majority of Benidorm Fest voters are gay men and they keep heavily voting for some niche songs like Zorra and Esa Diva that will appeal only to a very specific and limited audience (that is gay men like themselves). Spain could have gotten much better results if you guys sent St. Pedro and J Kbello in the last 2 years.

As someone who lives in Spain I am quite baffled by this as the people around me seem to think they pick the best possible entries and while they seem to realize they may not do well with said entries, it doesn't stop them from complaining that Europe doesn't get them once it's all over. It's really not that deep. Sending something current that appeals to both the gays and the casual viewers is the key. Chanel did it perfectly and I bet my hat JKbello would have done amazing this year had he been chosen. He's good looking, a great dances, the vocals are just fine and the song is current. Read the room (Europe), dear Spain.

I subscribe every single word you said. The X Melody supporting community has suddenly disappeared, they've been blaming us who complained about the Melody choice and were a bit critical with the type of song we were sending, imposing their opinion on how well would Spain score this year in the contest. Well there you go, revenge is served cold.

The few tweets I've read lie back again into the 'Europe doesn't like us' category. Can't we just learn????? The only solution is BF reaching larger audience groups besides the huge 30-40 y/o gay men one that fully hogs the televote for divas (and firing Ana María Bordás, she's totally cursed!!!!!!)

Oh, and it is more than obvious that JKabello would've socred better, maybe top15.

 

[ayzelto]

This was expected and deserved. But I am so used to getting low result that it does not affect me anymore. Nothing will change, the same people will still be in charge, and we will have to wait some more years to be lucky and sneak into the top 10 again.

 

[Fluke]

The main problem is the artistic direction. Who decides the selection of the songs should follow more the direction of Sanremo or Fdc than MelFest or other Nordic selections.
If you try to imitate MelFest, what they are doing now, then you'll get heavy stagings, wigs, dancers, huge nails, wind machines etc. But they aren't able to do it better than the Nordics do so the results are far lower of expectations.

But you think they'd be able to do what Italy does, but better? And right, Portugal is such a great model to follow, consistently excellent results

 

[nudiecrudi]

But you think they'd be able to do what Italy does, but better? And right, Portugal is such a great model to follow, consistently excellent results

Evidently it is not functioning. Getting almost always few miserable points from the public is a clear signal. Portugal may not be a very successful country but ultimately is becoming more consistent.
Their songs have a clear identity. And they won with a typical fantastic Portuguese song.
With only televoting Spain would have failed even to qualify if it wasn't part of big. 5.
Blas 0 points Blanca 3 points, don't remember last year and 8 points this year. Only Chanel saved the table but one swallow doesn't make a summer.

 

[jatojo]

There have been a couple of surprisingly bad results for Spain in recent years. This was not one of them. If there was something surprising about it, it was the fandom once again overhyping Spain's entry. I even saw Spain as number 3 on one list during last week! But no - local divas and kitschy pop with a Mediterranean twist just isn't a recipe for success at Eurovision.

Still, recent Eurovision history could easily have looked different for Spain. Like if they had chosen "Terra" in 2022.

If they were cynical, the Spaniards would send a ballad next year. That's a much safer choice due to the (too) influential juries.

 

[Alsou4ever]

A couple of bad results? Chanel was the first top 5 in 30 years, we ranked top 10 in 1997, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2012 and 2014 and that's it. The rest has been bottom 5