K-Pop

EscTombo · May 19, 2017

I was wondering if there are any other K-Pop fans loving Eurovision as well. If yes, which are your favorite groups (+bias) and what are your favorite songs of 2017 so far? ^^

popavapeur · May 19, 2017

we had a contest back then made by [MENTION=9195]tuorem[/MENTION] about Kpop ! I think there's already a thread if I'm not mistaken, we're a lot enjoying kpop

I'm more into girlgroups as for me Boysband tend to sound exactly the same

JChan · May 19, 2017

I am so stoked to see BTS appear at the Billboard Awards, its a huge accomplishment!!

aja675 · July 5, 2017

popavapeur · January 4, 2018

anybody stanning LOONA here ?

I felt into the LOONAVERSE(TM) in late May when Kim Lip released her solo single

If you don"t know the concept (ATTENTION LONG POST- Explaining the whole stuff with vids)

Loona is a promotionnal/marketing/creative/illuminati thing very interesting if you're interested in the (korean) music industry. It's a 12-members girlband (yeah that's a lot) that is going to debut in 2018. Since the end of 2016, their agency "Block Berry Creative" reveal ONE girl each month. Each girl has a color and an animal + a genre of music. So in Oct 16 we had HeeJin, Nov 16 HyunJin, Dec 16 HaSeul and so on. The girl of the month has her own solo to promote herself (which is unusual for a girlband that hasn't debuted yet). They also have a youtube channel where they post mini vids about 1min length kinda of vlog-like which makes the girls and the agency far more hurman, you can discover them without them being acting something because it's just the backstage of the MVs or photoshoot. Something lacking in Kpop, the bands often look like robots. Fans are making theories about the group cause BBC (agency) like to put some hidden easter eggs in the MV and if you put all the music videos one behind another you can make kind of a storyline, as they're also divided into 3 sub-units, fan found that each sub unit has a link between the other one and form a Moebius band that develops a bigger storyline (Amazingness +1000)

The first girls weren't really exciting except if you like ballads or mid-tempo stuff, but what was interesting is the different genres of music between the members and if you like creative music videos they're totally into creating universe kinda "weird stuff into our normal lives", the first girls had their MV shoot in different places like Paris for HeeJin, Tokyo for HyunJin and even Iceland for HaSeul (yeah dancing in Iceland's Toundra in full winter so fun). After the 4-5 first members were revealed, the agency told that before the full band will debut, they'll make sub-unit, so 4 of the 5 girls are LOONA 1/3 and they have a cutesy concept (but it's musically interesting even if I'm not fond of their songs, you can tell that they're slightly different from the "basic cutesy concept" girlgroups).

When it began to be VERY INTERESTING was with the 6th girl : Kim Lip. Everybody was kinda liking the promotionnal idea but that still was another cutey-thing girlish girlband. Eclipse, the title track of Kim Lip's solo is a total mid-tempo RNB chill song. The weirdness cold-mystic aesthetic was 10 levels higher and people get interested into that band that could offer cute concept but also a much more mature concept. Then again the 7th girl : JinSoul released a strong trap-rnb track. With Choerry the 8th girl, they form ODD EYE CIRCLE, the second subunit with a girl crush concept and far more interesting song quality (and even a full english song).

Do you like the songs from Carly Rae Jepsen's EMOTION album ? You're gonna love YVES, the 9th member with her song "New" an awesome synthpop tune.The last member revealed is Chuu and her song is Heart Attack. Now we only have two girls left before the last sub unit and the full group debut.

If you read everything : congrats. I totally felt in love with these girls, I think their promotionnal concept is awesome, it's totally useless but terribly creative and they really have some very good songs (if you didn't watch all the vids, take some time to watch Kim Lip - Eclipse and Yves - New). So I can't wait for their full debut.

popavapeur · January 25, 2018

TO SAY : Serebro is actually pointing out Momoland's last single for being a little bit too similar :

#drama

Fluke · December 8, 2018

I'm amazed by the quality and creativity of K-pop in the last few years. I'd go as far as saying this is the first real advancement in mainstream popular music in 20 years. This is the first thing since then that's truly new and contemporary. They've finally nailed how to reach a young audience, filling a void that the stodgy, self-absorbed western music industry hasn't been able to fill for decades. And i can't wait to see what the western music industry is going to come up with to counter this. Maybe they'll just imitate it, or they'll come up with their own thing entirely, or they'll just keep on being irrelevant. One thing's for sure, K-pop is still growing and developing and it's going strange places. Here's some of my favorites right now....

Ana Raquel · December 8, 2018

I'VE GOT SOMETHING TO SAY

stan loona

B3stbeats · December 9, 2018

popavapeur · February 19, 2019

masterpiece

tomos2019 · February 19, 2019

I like certain K-pop songs but it tends to be just certain groups or the odd song rather than being one of my major interests.

One I really like from the 90s is S.E.S's cover of ''Rakastuin ma looseriin'' from 1998:

I was really big on KARA and SNSD but they seem to be mostly irrelevant now.

Ana Raquel · February 19, 2019

popavapeur said:
masterpiece

I was here to promote that!!!!! kpop is saved

tomos2019 said:
I like certain K-pop songs but it tends to be just certain groups or the odd song rather than being one of my major interests.

One I really like from the 90s is S.E.S's cover of ''Rakastuin ma looseriin'' from 1998:

I was really big on KARA and SNSD but they seem to be mostly irrelevant now.

kara disbanded

musicfan · March 11, 2019

tomos2019 said:
I like certain K-pop songs but it tends to be just certain groups or the odd song rather than being one of my major interests.

One I really like from the 90s is S.E.S's cover of ''Rakastuin ma looseriin'' from 1998:

I was really big on KARA and SNSD but they seem to be mostly irrelevant now.

I didn't even know that was a cover, which is strange as I have heard older Finnish music, but it looks like that song by Nylon Beat was never among songs I heard (maybe not so famous in Finland or 90s music wasn't as classic to people).

Anyway if I was to pick a best period for Korean music it would probably be the 80s. I just think Thai music has been much better this century, better than Japanese pop too. Best Kpop song I heard from last year so far was Love Bomb from fromis_9.

tomos2019 · March 11, 2019

I don't know much 80s Korean music and only find the odd Thai song every now and again I'm afraid!

My favourite current Korean song at the moment is DK-Lie, I also don't mind Itzy-Dalla dalla.

Laepo1 · March 11, 2019

J-Pop >>> K-pop.

Bye.

musicfan · March 12, 2019

Jpop was very influential in the far east in the 70s/80s.

The DK song has a nice vocal but I don't feel much individual character in the melody, the chorus hook for instance doesn't grab me.

popavapeur · March 13, 2019

sometimes when I listen to kpop and see that it's around 3min I'm always wondering "could it be a winning song ?" and there's sooooo muuuuch songs that fits really well the ESC fantasy with a fun choreo, hooks and a bridge at the right moment that could easily sneak into a top 5.

Alaska49 · May 31, 2019

Laepo1 said:
J-Pop >>> K-pop.

Bye.

i refuse to enter this debate without knowing what you mean by j-pop when that term is so much broader than k-pop lol i need examples

popavapeur said:
sometimes when I listen to kpop and see that it's around 3min I'm always wondering "could it be a winning song ?" and there's sooooo muuuuch songs that fits really well the ESC fantasy with a fun choreo, hooks and a bridge at the right moment that could easily sneak into a top 5.

considering luca hanni just got a 4th place with a super junior feature track, you are probably entirely correct!! t-ara's roly poly is the eurovision top 3 disco revival that never was.

anyway let us all stan talent and empowerment

Fluke · October 25, 2019

Anyone else think the new trend of K-pop "supergroups" reeks of desperation? SuperM is already doing international TV appearances as if they've actually had a fandom for long, and there's at least two more "supergroups" on the way.

Even if you like them (i think "Jopping" was pretty mediocre, B+ at best) you gotta admit this is a weird and rushed move of them. NCT 127 seriously had the chance of building a international fandom as strong as BTS, their music was the most sophisticated and original within the genre, with visuals to match, and they actually built a western fanbase in less than a year, but now they seem to have abandoned it for this.

I got a feeling at this rate, the 6+member boy bands will be ridiculed and declared dead by next year. Maybe they'll focus on smaller groups, solo acts or some new concept to revive it, but now they're already self-cannibalizing their fame.

I'm thinking "guitar bands" like DAY6 and solo acts like Jackson Wang might be where the international K-pop phenomenon is going next.

Fluke · March 7, 2020

Stanning this hard, looks like SuperM is abandoned for now.

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