That came from a Turkish. Leave him
When you can't find any arguments to back up your statements.
You simply judge them by their nationality nice mentality
That came from a Turkish. Leave him
^We don't care anymore.
When the Scandinavians, the Baltic countries and the former Soviet ones exchange 10-12 points, they are interwoven with each other ... we are talking about so much hypocrisy ...
Tbh the best parts of the whole night were when the Greek/Cypriot juries awarded each other 12 points and the crowd boo'd both times. Glad to see they're finally catching on to their tricks.
It was Ukrainian troll, it has nothing to do with AustraliaAnd the worst moment was when a disrespectful Aussie opened his butt in front of the previous winner and made fun of her.
There is no denying there is some bias in each European country and when this is the televote I might even be willing to accept it.
But if so called "professional" juries give not 5, 8 or 10, but 12 points to their neighbour, when the rest of all the countries barely give you anything, you really need to take a hard reflective look at yourself. Greece got almost 33% from it's points from Cyprus, that is a significant difference.
If it's the televote I would be annoyed but I would understand, this is just touching the line of cheating.
There is no denying there is some bias in each European country and when this is the televote I might even be willing to accept it.
But if so called "professional" juries give not 5, 8 or 10, but 12 points to their neighbour, when the rest of all the countries barely give you anything, you really need to take a hard reflective look at yourself. Greece got almost 33% from it's points from Cyprus, that is a significant difference.
If it's the televote I would be annoyed but I would understand, this is just touching the line of cheating.
Greece (Greek team in Kyiv) sent to EBU a protest letter/mail with complaints about the (very) bad organization. Fokas and EBU had agreed different things on stage 1.5 month before, and 5 days before the rehearsals the EBU said that due to ''safety reasons'', the prop the Greek Team had agreed to bring on stage ( a big swing ) can not be implemented. Also the email to EBU has complaints about the camera work and lighting.
When Fokas has complained about that the Production said: ''This year you can't do the things you did with Russia last year''.
omg...:?
Imo, it is hypocrisy because for example on 2015 Greece had a good song and the singer was Greek Cypriot. Cyprus gave it 8pts, so the jury must have given it ~6pts or something. And last year that we sent a bad song the jury just gave it 3pts.
I saw that Finland and Denmark gave 12 points to Sweden. Imo, there were around 15 songs better than that.
And Cyprus is usually underrated imo. Their song was one of the few songs I liked, like Georgia and Cyprus last year and what those songs have in common is Thomas G:son from Sweden.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_G:son
the Greek jury last year:
Russia 12
Armenia 10
Cyprus 8
Australia 7
France 6
Georgia 5
Hungary 3
Ukraine 2
Azerbajan 1
the Greek jury this year:
Cyprus 12
Azerbajan 10
Armenia 8
Moldova 7
Romania 6
Portugal 5
Italy 4
Belarus 3
Bulgaria 2
UK 1
-Addition-
On 2014 the Greek jury gave 12 points to Norway. Televoting+juries
Austria 12
Russia 10
Netherlands 8
Armenia 7
Hungary 6
Ukraine 5
Switzerland 4
Norway 3
Sweden 2
Poland 1
On 2015 the Greek jury gave 12 points to Italy. Televoting+juries=
Italy 12
Cyprus 10
Russia 8
Belgium 7
Albania 6
Australia 5
Sweden 4
Latvia 3
Georgia 2
Armenia 1
Also our jury this year gave 10pts to Azerbajan. Irrespective of my opinion on it, Azerbajan is like friends of our 'enemies' (Turkey) and enemies of our friends (Armenia), so there's nothing political about giving 10pts to Azerbajan.
Juries shouldn't exist in the first place, though. Imo they were created mostly because some countries were unhappy about diaspora vote. They make the contest more political.
You should be more concerned about the juries that affected the results the previous two years.
And Hovig is a huge star in GreeceI dont get the hate. Im not sure, but i think Demy is one of the biggest stars in Cyprus so its definetely allowed for cyprish Juries to give their 12 Points to Greece.
And Hovig is a huge star in Greece
As for the controversy surrounding the exchange of points between Greek and Cypriot juries, it was simply scandalous to me: juries were alledgedly brought back to help counteract/balance televoting biases, but the truth is they didn't care this year and voted like people did. I'm not saying Cypriot juries (for instance) shouldn't be allowed to give their twelve points to Greece, it's just that it seemed very questionable to me that - from a professional, musical and artistical point of view - they were coincidentally the only ones to think Greece was the best act in the final.