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2024 Winner predictions

MopManMoss

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:hr: has winner vibes all over

rock ✔
middle eastern vibe ✔
sing along ✔
quirkyness ✔
televote ✔
country never won esc ✔
How does middle eastern vibe (what)/country that has never won/rock lead to a winner exactly?

We have had two rock winners and the general audience doesn't care even a tiny bit about whether or not a country has won previously when they vote as they probably have no idea
 

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How does middle eastern vibe (what)/country that has never won/rock lead to a winner exactly?

We have had two rock winners and the general audience doesn't care even a tiny bit about whether or not a country has won previously when they vote as they probably have no idea
don't take me too seriously :ROFLMAO:
 

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Am I the only one who thinks Norway could even be a surprise NQ?
It's far from having a shot at winning in my opinion
This. Giving me more Icebreaker vibes than any winning vibes.
 
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As I already mentioned I´m absolutely clueless about this year. But for some reason I have the feeling that some songs we´re expecting to rock the televote won´t do as well because they´ll only do well in certain parts of Europe, :nl: for example. I can see Joost getting good points (not necessarily :12: though) in :de:, :at:, :ch: and :be: as well as in Scandinavia, but I already read quite a few times here and there that this style of music was never that popular in Southern or Eastern Europe, so I could see these countries giving him fewer points in the televote.

Guess we have to wait and see what happens in Malmö, this is one of the most open races for the ESC crown in a very long time and I like that. :)
I’d say :nl: will be more popular in a those countries while :hr: will struggle in Western and Northern Europe. Therefore no 300+ televoting winner I guess.

Btw I’m totally confused by :gr:, why is it top 10 in the odds??? This isn’t top 10 material at all.
 

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I have a feeling juries will be more open to experimental/non mainstream songs this year.
There will be no runaway jury winner this year, so I think :hr: has a decent shot.
If votes are spread all over the place, my guess is:
:be: jury winner
:hr: televote winner
:lt: / :ch: ESC winner

But I'm terrible at predictions, last year I predicted :ch: top 3 with the juries :rolleyes:
 

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The group of televote-friendly entries this year is so big and well wide-spread across Europe that I'm pretty sure the juries will decide the winner this year. The group of jury-pleasing entries is rather small, so it might be easier to get a very high jury score than a very high televote score. So, the winner would be one of the frontrunners in the juryvote who also does really well in the televote (but might not even need top 3 in it).

Faves based on great jury score + good to great televote score

:be::it:

Dark horses based on a good "average" score

:ch::ua:

Possible outsiders based on huge televote score + surprisingly decent jury score
:nl::hr:

Possible outsiders based on huge jury score + surprisingly decent televote score
:se::uk:
 

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Can anyone please explain why :ua: is considered as a contender by 90 percent of people. The song is absolutely no winner material. And the war situation doesn’t produce a 300 televoting points situation anymore. Between 150 and 200 televoting points is possible again and maybe up to 100 jury points. But why should juries give this song more than 150 points or so?? It’s no jury song at all.
 

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Can anyone please explain why :ua: is considered as a contender by 90 percent of people. The song is absolutely no winner material. And the war situation doesn’t produce a 300 televoting points situation anymore. Between 150 and 200 televoting points is possible again and maybe up to 100 jury points. But why should juries give this song more than 150 points or so?? It’s no jury song at all.
I would say Jerry's haunting vocal would strongly appeal to jury members - it adds so much emotion without going OTT that I think it elevates the song. Alyona's rap - if executed perfectly - could go down a treat with juries too. There's a lot that could really appeal to them beyond 'it's Ukraine' if you ask me.
 

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As for my own winner prediction, I'm really stumped. I think this is a weak year overall, but wide open at the same time. It's very odd. :unsure:

As for a winner, I suspect it will be country that doesn't win either the jury or public vote simply because there's no outright favourite (at this stage).

I could see a jury winner being one of :fr: or :ch:. You could even throw in the likes of :be: (if they manage to make the first 2 minutes interesting), :it: and :ua: too.

As for public vote, I suspect one of :hr: or :nl: could win it (but not convincingly) as these votes will be spread out among other 'fun acts'. They won't get the jury support and will not be in contention for the win - but top 10 is possible or both (sadly).

What that means for a winner I don't know, but someone like :it: could get it by having the best aggregate across the two votes. It's one of those years...
 

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So, like everyone else... I have no clue. And I love it!

But I'll throw in a few guesses (to laugh at later). We'll definitely have a better idea once rehearsals start, and then I'll probably switch all my guesses around, but that won't stop me from throwing random ideas out now =D

Potential Jury winners/top 5:

▪︎France, if Slimane keeps the Dora acapella stunt & others don't deliver or don't qualify
▪︎Belgium & Switzerland if they nail the staging and live vocals. Belgium is 'easier' to stage but they're track record is meh, while Switzerland is a wholeass uber risky pot of awesome but Switzerland often stages well
▪︎Italy, bcs Angelina is so charismatic and has that certain youthfulness mixed with a great security on stage. They do need to get the staging right, lively but IMO with a very, very clear focus on Angelina, bcs she's a Star
▪︎Portugal. I'm worried for their qualification, but if they make it to the GF it could be a big Jury pleaser - purposeful, very well performed with lovely vocals. It might be too 'artsy' tho I guess.
▪︎Ukraine & Sweden are also just two safe picks, but I think they're 'beatable' depending on how some riskier entries with more potential perform
▪︎for more 'unusual' picks: both UK & Slovenia might do well with Juries IMO if they get the staging truly right, and Olly and Raiven are two artists I see having a great Vision. Ollys performance abilities and Raivens siren notes might help too

Overall prediction: Switzerland nails everything and wins the jury, with Portugal, Italy, Belgium or France, and either Sweden or UK making the top 5.

Potential televote winners/top 5:

▪︎generally horrible to predict because there is so much televote bait this year
▪︎Netherlands/Estonia/Finland/Croatia are all kinda going for the "fun" vote. Croatia has the most hype in the bubble, but needs to clean up staging/live vocals to really work live. Netherlands has some hype too, less bubble-centric, but I find it harder to predict if it can have 'universal' appeal in several countries. But likely these two will beat the other two
▪︎Italy feels like the best 'girl bop' this year and might garner those votes. The biggest competition is Austria IMO
▪︎Switzerland with great staging could truly stand out
▪︎the ballad lovers might split their votes between Serbia & Portugal (the two best ballads IMO) and France for sheer vocals
▪︎Armenia or Greece could get a lot of "ethnic & fun song" lovers, tho my money is on Armenia. Might struggle bcs of Estonia & Co tho too
▪︎ Ukraine & Israel, not least bcs of 'political reasons'. Additionally both countries can stage well, and Ukraines song is very popular too while standing out for being calmer in an upbeat year. They're a sure top 5 in tele IMO, with Israel being more of a wildcard
▪︎Norway is just a complete Wildcard. Might win tele, might come last - I have no clue

Overall prediction: Ukraine will win the televote in a year very split between many acts, followed by Croatia. Then some combination of Netherlands, Switzerland, Italy, Armenia/Greece & Israel will round out the top 5.

Overall: the strongest contenders with Jury & tele to me are Switzerland & Italy, maybe Ukraine. So, for now I'm saying Switzerland. I think we'll have the jury winner win again, tho nobody will get Loreen kinda numbers. Televote might be very even between many acts, so something like jury #1 and tele #3/#4 might even win. Or a Duncan type of win. Somehow, I think the televote winner won't win again, just like last year. And we'll get some huge splits between jury & tele, more than usual.
 

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I'm not convinced at all that Switzerland will pull off the performance. It's a hard song to sing and stage. Not winning IMO
I feel like they could do - and do it in style. I think Nemo nailing it on the night is more likely than the performance flopping. It's whether it connects with the audience at home.

I think a jury win is possible for Switzerland, but the public vote is a real unknown. I think they'll do well as I've said earlier in the thread, but yeah, it's touch and go as to whether Nemo can win. The Code is the song I'd personally like to win in what is a really weak year.
 

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The Code is the song I'd personally like to win in what is a really weak year.

I think it's interesting that you call it a weak year when I've heard and read most people calling it a really strong year because of the diversity in songs with high quality. :LOL:

If Switzerland wins, then I'm wondering if next year more countries will send more experimental songs. I think that would be pretty cool.
 
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