- December 27, 2014
Do you think what happened last night will have an influence on a change of voting system the next year, like how 0 points for Germany and Austria did have an impact on it back in 2015?
Oh agreed! And that's a good and bad thing as we at home just watch it, get stressed for 15 minutes, and then relax, whereas I'd imagine it takes a serious toll on the artists. I guess that's something the EBU needs to ask itself, do they want to have a good show or are they looking out for the artists?I'll agree that it's not gonna be changed, but instead of producing adrenaline by excitement, I feel it produces more adrenaline by stress.
You are not wrong obvs but still it feels like just giving points to the Top 10 creates way too many "losers"I´m acutally opposed to ranking all the songs, simply because are one of the things everyone knows when it comes to Eurovision. I´m sorry but "26 points" simply don´t have these kind of "magic" as .
You are not wrong obvs but still it feels like just giving points to the Top 10 creates way too many "losers"
Yes sure but it`s not like nobody voted for entries that did bad, ya know? That is exactly the impression one gets though. It`s just not a good representation of what really went down and might make people think "oh my votes don`t count anyway". Maybe it would be better to just give points according to the percentages of actual votes an act got. I really don`t know.Well, it´s basically like other competitions or events like the Olympics. Only the first threee get a medal there, the others nothing. Here in this case the points are also some kind of "medals" if you know what I mean.
Absolutely agree - would love to see this. The current top 10 system was fine during the days when there were like 15 countries in the final, but the contest has evolved since then.I wish they would (at least in the televoting) somehow work with ranking all 25/26 songs tbh. Like not just giving points to the Top 10 idk. That way one could counter heavy neighbor voting. Take this year for example which only make it to 9th place in the televoting because all it`s buddies ( ) and the countries with a massive Serbian diaspora ( ) gave it top marks. That result does not reflect the fact that they were only 16th when ranking all averages. Same with that was only 18th in that ranking or which had the 22nd best average. E.g. the other way around and did actually (slightly) better than it looks.
Absolutely agree - would love to see this. The current top 10 system was fine during the days when there were like 15 countries in the final, but the contest has evolved since then.
Yes, I get it. points is iconic. 0 points gives us great memes. But the current system just doesn't reflect how each country *actually* performs. It's very 'tip of the iceberg', which makes the results seem far more exaggerated than in reality (and more predictable). Imagine how much more exciting the results could be if *every* country got points and the margins at the top were so much closer?
Also the current system plays far more into the narrative that the contest is 'all political', especially when on the surface it looks like certain countries are getting 'handed' out 0s and not that they were just ranked 17th on average. Not to mention I think it's a shame that a few rogue 12s from a small handful of countries can rocket someone up the scoreboard and overtake a country that, on average, ranked better.
The points wouldn't necessarily have to be 26-1. We could leave a few out and make it something cutesy like 24 points (22, 20, 19... etc) if it catches on better. I just think considering the monumental effort every country puts in, the current system is too off-balance...
I mean I don't see juries going away any day soon (although I still cross my fingers their powers could be limited to 40% or something but it won't happen), so then the current system is the best compromise.
The thing is, the transparency of the jury system still needs to be questioned, or the composition of the juries itself. Year by year it seems as if the juries were getting less transparent and somehow getting more packed with Eurovision alumni or NF alumni. Well, having a connection to the broadcaster makes it easier to organize them, perhaps?
And I find it lazy that the official Eurovision website didn't list the occupations of the juries. If it's not an alumni I wouldn't know what name XX does in the music industry or professional field and we have to search the profession of 150 names by hand.