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Chrisiam

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Have you ever seen WiiiWiblogs and Okiotimes in the same room?

Its all part of a scheme within a plot within a conspiracy to get FD to represent the UK at Eurovision, the long con, we are through the looking glass people!
 

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literally, but literally nobody want them... hope their HoD realizes that, if not then it's no hope for the UK. James Newman was a step in the right direction, not the best UK could do, but at least it was a respectable entry, by a respectable singer-songwriter. Frock D. are nothing like that tho - not respectable, they can't even sing, they are not singers by profession, why on earth would anyone consider them, especially in a market like the UK.
 

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literally, but literally nobody want them... hope their HoD realizes that, if not then it's no hope for the UK. James Newman was a step in the right direction, not the best UK could do, but at least it was a respectable entry, by a respectable singer-songwriter. Frock D. are nothing like that tho - not respectable, they can't even sing, they are not singers by profession, why on earth would anyone consider them, especially in a market like the UK.

I doubt our current delegation would consider the FD. No more of these joke acts please.
 

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When I looked at the ava, I thought we have a new member. :ROFLMAO: Until I saw your name. Great ava! :love: And offtopic. Sorry.

It's a lil' snapshot of my Cyberpunk 2077 character :cool:


But anyway, I hope we don't have anything to worry about here. I honestly don't think that we do, and that it's just Wiwibloggs giving Frock Destroyers some free promo. The 10,000+ signatures is highkey mortifying but that's all thanks I'm assuming to hardcore Drag Race fans rallying together. I've loved/liked a lot of singing drag performers over the years but it's honestly hard to think of a more unappealing choice for us than Frock Destroyers right now. Lord give us some mercy here.
 

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The 10,000+ signatures is highkey mortifying but that's all thanks I'm assuming to hardcore Drag Race fans rallying together. it's honestly hard to think of a more unappealing choice for us than Frock Destroyers right now. Lord give us some mercy here.
Sure, the reputation of UK at eurovision is on stake here. :rolleyes:xfaintxfacepalm
Some ppl tend to be more dramatic than the others. I was not referring to you specifically though.
 

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In honesty I could see FD having some kind of presence at a UK hosted contest as an interval act or performing at some official event or sketch or something. Or hell, the act that represents the UK should it win it whilst they are still nominally relevant.

I can't see them representing the UK otherwise. Regardless of what one might think of how the BBC picks its acts its undeniable that they always go for the safest option. And FD would be too much of a risk for them. They'd much rather send Bigger Than Us III with an overweight mid-twenties male singer with a final performance choreography featuring a singing circle, air grab, and a golden shower at the end for good measure.
 

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I truly don't understand Wiwibloggs forcing articles and editorals out of nowhere every single year to promote acts like Steps and Frock Destroyers as the UK entrants. Especially considering most of them are British. Don't they realize, after following the contest these many years. that promoting these kind of outdated acts is just in line with the whole novelty circus view that the British public as of Eurovision? These kind of entries will go nowhere towards getting the UK out of its Eurovision hole.

Besides, the HoD just gave a interview recently where he kind of laid out the plans for the next few years, and it seems like they see the way forward as changing the public perception of Eurovision to encourage more "serious" acts and entries to step forward, which is completely the opposite of sending something like the Frock Destroyers right now. Wiwibloggs just ignored that interview's existence and instead put out the 103856th article of the season promoting FD.
 

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Forgive me for my naivety here, but I assumed that wiwiblogs would be on board with distancing the UK from its Eurovision predicament. I’ve seen a lot of shade thrown at them on here which is half amuses me as the leader of the blogs seems a bit... annoying at times. Are they really endorsing Frock Destroyers? If so I’m shocked as they seem to understand modern Eurovision.
 

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Yeah something is iffy about that, I mean they can report about it - but don't know why are they so excited by something they probably wouldn't like otherwise. But agree I love some wiwibloggers (especially those from older days - Denise, Deban, Edd also Robyn) but W*lliam is so fake and annoying - I can't with him, so over the top for no reason most of the time, his sister is no better tbh. (nothing personal against them I just don't find them likeable)
 

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So in the interest of pivoting back to the topic at hand, how long do we think we are going to start hearing the 'totally legit inside source' rumours this time around?

There has been a rumour floating about the interwebs that information regarding the UK's entry will be revealed "Early 2021". Which, well, feels a tad optimistic. Unless this time around they are announcing the act first and the song later as some nations seem to do.
 

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I haven't seen or heard a single rumour about our entry release or interviews with the HoD let alone any reliable news. Early 2021 is such a vague statement, thats literally the entire submission time in 2021
 

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Looking back at UK 2020's process they could follow the same path, which would mean BBC would release their entry at late February and we'll probably hear rumors starting from mid February. If they are still working with BMG, I expect good music from BBC.
 

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Looking back at UK 2020's process they could follow the same path, which would mean BBC would release their entry at late February and we'll probably hear rumors starting from mid February. If they are still working with BMG, I expect good music from BBC.

In the podcast, Lee did say that working with a record label attracts a lot more interest in terms of songwritters/singers than a broadcaster alone, which does tell me that the BMG partnership is continuing.

I do think it will be James again in 2021.
 

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Either easy promo from a popular tag, or it means something else. No Way this is going to ESC with some of them lyrics.
 

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True, but he'd have to want to do it, which to be honest I can't see him taking part. An artist like that would help to legitimise the contest in the eyes of a lot of people in the UK and help challenge preconceptions of it in general. As to whether we will get an act like that who will remain mature through out and not pull a Michael Rice (being a good ambassador for the contest in the UK, dismissing the poltics side of things and then upon losing blaming Brexit and pulling the "Europe Hates Us" line out) is another thing entirely.

Whoever represents the UK needs to keep their chin up and take the distinct possibility of not winning in their stride and be magnanimous in defeat rather than pulling out crap excuses as is sadly often done.
 
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