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Sweden SWEDEN 2020 - The Mamas - Move
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First of all Sweden, how dare you put Méndez and Drängarna against each other? They should both be in the final! 
Anyway, i've just listened to all of them at once and rated them:
Final:
Hanna Ferm 10/10 <-gotta be in bold to emphazise she's my winner
Mariette 9/10
Mohombi 9/10
Dotter 6/10
Victor Crone 6/10
Robin Bengtsson 5/10
The Mamas 4/10
Anna Bergendahl 3/10
Second chance:
Drängarna 10/10
Anis don Demina 10/10
Malou Prytz 9/10
Méndez feat. Alvaro Estrella 9/10
Paul Rey 6/10
Felix Sandman 4/10
Frida Öhrn 3/10
Ellen Benediktson & Simon Peyron 2/10
Eliminated songs:
Klara Hammarström 7/10
Suzi P 7/10
OVÖ 6/10
Nanne Grönvall 6/10
Amanda Aasa 6/10
Jakob Karlberg 5/10
Linda Bengtzing 4/10
William Stridh 3/10
Faith Kakembo 3/10
Sonja Aldén 2/10
Albin Johnsén 2/10
Jan Johansen 1/10
I'm actively supporting 9s and 10s.
I'm willing to settle for 8s and 7s.
6 means i recognize some quality in it.
Anything 5 and less is a hvala ne.
Anyway, i've just listened to all of them at once and rated them:
Final:
Hanna Ferm 10/10 <-gotta be in bold to emphazise she's my winner
Mariette 9/10
Mohombi 9/10
Dotter 6/10
Victor Crone 6/10
Robin Bengtsson 5/10
The Mamas 4/10
Anna Bergendahl 3/10
Second chance:
Drängarna 10/10
Anis don Demina 10/10
Malou Prytz 9/10
Méndez feat. Alvaro Estrella 9/10
Paul Rey 6/10
Felix Sandman 4/10
Frida Öhrn 3/10
Ellen Benediktson & Simon Peyron 2/10
Eliminated songs:
Klara Hammarström 7/10
Suzi P 7/10
OVÖ 6/10
Nanne Grönvall 6/10
Amanda Aasa 6/10
Jakob Karlberg 5/10
Linda Bengtzing 4/10
William Stridh 3/10
Faith Kakembo 3/10
Sonja Aldén 2/10
Albin Johnsén 2/10
Jan Johansen 1/10
I'm actively supporting 9s and 10s.
I'm willing to settle for 8s and 7s.
6 means i recognize some quality in it.
Anything 5 and less is a hvala ne.
I agree that his song is bad but at least we know that he won't represent Sweden in Rotterdam!
PinchyCrabstina
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Nanne has got more views on youtube than the songs who went to Andra Chansen. I can't believe she didn't even get to the second round. Now the only use I have for my final ticket is to wipe my tears with it. 
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full ranking:
Dotter - Bulletproof
Anna Bergendahl - Kingdom Come
Victor Crone - Troubled Waters
Nanne Gronvall - Carpool Karaoke
Jakob Karlberg - Om du tror att jag saknar dig
Linda Bengtzing - Alla mina sorger
Amanda Aasa - Late
The Mamas - Move
Drangarna - Piga & drang
Anis Don Demina - Vem e som oss
Hanna Ferm - Brave
Robin Bengtsson - Take A Chance
Frida Ohrn - We Are One
Faith Kakembo - Crying Rivers
Mendez ft. Alvaro Estrella - Vamos amigos
Malou Prytz - Ballerina
Mariette - Shout It Out
OVO - Inga problem
Suzi P - Moves
Paul Rey - Talking In My Sleep
Albin Johnsén - Livet borjar nu
William Stridh - Molnljus
Sonja Aldén - Sluta aldrig ga
Ellen Benediktson & Simon Peyron - Surface
Mohombi - Winners
Klara Hammerstrom - Nobody
Jan Johansen - Miraklernas tid
Felix Sandman - Boys With Emotions (I made a turd brown just for Felix congrats x 0)
Dotter - Bulletproof
Anna Bergendahl - Kingdom Come
Victor Crone - Troubled Waters
Nanne Gronvall - Carpool Karaoke
Jakob Karlberg - Om du tror att jag saknar dig
Linda Bengtzing - Alla mina sorger
Amanda Aasa - Late
The Mamas - Move
Drangarna - Piga & drang
Anis Don Demina - Vem e som oss
Hanna Ferm - Brave
Robin Bengtsson - Take A Chance
Frida Ohrn - We Are One
Faith Kakembo - Crying Rivers
Mendez ft. Alvaro Estrella - Vamos amigos
Malou Prytz - Ballerina
Mariette - Shout It Out
OVO - Inga problem
Suzi P - Moves
Paul Rey - Talking In My Sleep
Albin Johnsén - Livet borjar nu
William Stridh - Molnljus
Sonja Aldén - Sluta aldrig ga
Ellen Benediktson & Simon Peyron - Surface
Mohombi - Winners
Klara Hammerstrom - Nobody
Jan Johansen - Miraklernas tid
Felix Sandman - Boys With Emotions (I made a turd brown just for Felix congrats x 0)
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Dotter and Hanna are way ahead the other in terms of views on Youtube.
1. Dotter- 52 088
2. Hanna- 47 487
3. Anna- 34 659
Will be intresting to see Spotify streams tomorrow.
1. Dotter- 52 088
2. Hanna- 47 487
3. Anna- 34 659
Will be intresting to see Spotify streams tomorrow.
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Yeah it seems like many Dotter fans is quite rude against Hanna, dislikes on YT and comments on twitter...
But I guess they see her as the biggest threat to Dotter.
So happy I have 4 favorites in Dotter, Hanna, Anna and Mamas.
And one of them will win for sure.
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Anna Bergendahl - "Kingdom come" Victor Crone - "Troubled waters" Nanne Grönvall - "Carpool Karaoke" Anis Don Demina - "Vem e som oss" Dotter - "Bulletproof" Hanna Ferm - "Brave" Jakob Karlberg - "Om du tror att jag saknar dig" The Mamas - "Move" Drängarna - "Piga & drang" Mendez & Alvaro Estrella - "Vamos amigos" Linda Bentzing - "Alle mina sorger" Mariette - "Shout it out" (is there a colour for Ironic love?) Felix Sandman - "Boys with emotions" Paul Rey - "Talking in my sleep" Malou Prytz - "Ballerina" Amanda Aasa - "Late" OVÖ - "Inga problem" Klara Hammarström - "Nobody" William Stridh - "Mölnljus" Frida Öhm - "We Are One" Suzi P - "Moves" Mohombi - "Winners" Faith Kakembo - "Crying rivers" Albin Johnsén - "Livet borjar nu" Sonja Aldén - "Sluta aldrig ga" Robin Bengtsson - "Take a chance" Ellen Benediktson & Simon Peyron - "Surface" Jan Johansen - "Miraklernas tid"This is better than last year, I think? But still not as good as some other NFs tbh. (DWI realest.)
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Okay, Melfest then. I listened to the second chances and the ones who are through and made a list of favorites and stuff like that. Disclaimer: I don't like Melfest. There is almost no variety, pretty much everything is so middle-of-the-road it's a long hard slog for me to get through this. I don't mind three bullshit songs in a row, but this was likely to be 16 of them and it turned out to be exactly that. Usually at some point I just can't afford to pay the attention a song deserves, so I have to do it in like four sittings to really make a proper judgment which takes about 2 hours with pauses and it's not particularly fun. It would be fun if there had been just a single interesting song, but it's just not there. This means that my accompanying texts are much less positive than they might normally be. I'm sorry for that, but it is what it is. Just think of it as an attempt at comedy, maybe it'll sound less scathing. Melfest is just too draining guys.
I'll start from the bottom and work my way up:
Robin Bengtsson - Take A Chance: 6,65
This is just shit. I don't know what the hell this is doing here. It has no originality, the lyrics are stupid, the production is laughable. Dude tries to make something out of this train wreck and kind of pulls this off, but he isn't the best singer around and has to rely on his charm to get anywhere. This will just not even qualify in Rotterdam. Horrible.
Frida Öhrn - We Are One: 6,68
Much like the one before. Very unoriginal, old-fashioned production, dumb lyrics. I mean it's kind of entertaining as some sort of Disney-like spectacle, but just gtfo Sweden. This has to rank among the least interesting songs I have ever heard.
Ellen Benediktson & Simon Peyron - Surface: 6,8
The boring production is seriously letting this song down, because there's something here. It's not melodically strong or anything and they could do a whole lot more with the staging, but there's some chemistry and I like how this song has such an effortless flow. It just sounds extremely dated in a non-ironic way, that will kill any song. If this looked and sounded like a million dollars, it would be among the potential winners. Now it's just dead.
Drängarna - Piga & dräng: 6,85
Yes, I'll grab my beer and raise it to a song like this, but inside I'm still cringing. This is children's music. There is nothing to listen to, this is just goofing out. There's a time and a place for that, obviously. Just hope that's not ESC 2020. For what it is, it's genuinely fun and entertaining, but it's not something I rate.You can be fun and entertaining while having an interesting song, see The Roop or Icelandic Dathi this ESC season.
Anis Don Demina - Vem e som oss: 6,88
So they simply rip off Macklemore and think they can get away with this? No.
Paul Rey - Talking in my sleep: 6,90
This has no identity at all. This is just Ed Sheeran and I really hate that idiot, both his music and his stupid melodies (Castle on the Hill was magnificent though). I can't for the love of god work out why people would listen to shit like this willingly. What are they actually listening to? The instrumentals do absolutely nothing beyond giving a beat and some chords to sing over and the melodies are boring. This is pop music at its worst. A quite competent polished turd.
Mendez feat. Alvaro Estrella - Vamos amigos: 6,9
Yeah ok, this is fun and all, but ugh. Production is so basic, such vapid lyrics, vocal performance is nothing special. There's no oomph to this and then there's the cringy Spanish stuff (could you be any more American?). I can see why people like this as a summery dance track, but leave that shit to the pro's please. This is just bad.
Hanna Ferm - Brave: 7,00
If she had tits she would be like 9,5/10 in the looks department, but this is still going to be entertaining me for 3 minutes whatever she does and this also means that I simply feel sorry for her that she just doesn't have the pipes and this song is just tedious and utterly unimpressive. Let's just say that if she was a man she would rank just above Robin Bengtsson and all that applies there also applies here. She's still young and can improve, she should keep trying but please make it interesting next time.
Mariette - Shout It Out: 7,00
Finally something competent then. This has decent production, if a bit predictable. Staging has issues, but there's an idea. Vocals are decent. Main problem here is that this song really just has a single bullet and it's already fired in the first chorus. Rest of the song is basically plodding and this would be okay if this is actually interesting, but I just don't feel like it's strong melodically in any way. I wouldn't mind this song in Rotterdam, but it's just too weak to do anything.
Mohombi - Winners: 7,03
This is soooo Sweden. This song has pretty much every box checked. Everything that has been popular in the last decade is in this song. None of that really matters, because they are just cameo's and basically easter eggs for those who listen carefully. Song itself beyond that is just solid, but nothing great. It never really shifts gears and although this is fine as it is I then have problems with the singer. He doesn't have the vocals or the charm to really elevate this in any way. Net result is that this is just kind of there. Who is going to vote for this?
Malou Prytz - Ballerina: 7,08
If you can do this at age 16 that's impressive. Vocals are still way too unstable, song isn't great, but she can perform. This was entertaining even though there wasn't that much happening. She should simply try again in coming Melfests. I think she understands that she has the power to unbutton pants with her eyes. That's a rare skill.
Anna Bergendahl - Kingdom Come: 7,18
There's a lot of buzz around this track, but I don't know why. Seems sickeningly derivative and although it kind of dodges that bullet somehow I'm not convinced that stuff like this actually works. It's a barrage of strong melodies, so there's certainly going to be some appeal there but it sounds so painfully old-school Sweden I can't imagine people really voting for this in droves and the jury is not going to like this one, that's for sure. Other problem: are you going to go for the dancers or the backing vocals? Problematic entry, I think it's very overrated.
Victor Crone - Troubled Waters: 7,23
One of those happy IKEA commercials. Just die please. I know this is something a lot of people like, but I can just feel my brain cells dying when I listen to this.
Felix Sandman - Boys With Emotions: 7,23
If he can fix his vocals this is actually a pretty cool track. I don't mind this. The lyrics are hammy, but they raise an issue that I'm okay with. I like the production here a lot, the melodies are weak but that doesn't really matter that much here. Staging is okay I guess. Yeah, I can get behind this one. Problematic vocals, but it's underrated right now. Still, we're talking Sweden here. Sweden has to do better than an entry like this.
The Mamas - Move: 7,55
Strong vocals? Absolutely. Strong melodies? Yes. Good production? Kind of, it's fine. Good staging? Could do more, but it works like this. Entertaining? Sure. Yeah, this is just a strong entry then. That tall one is MILFing the shit out of all the papas as well. There are no obvious downsides to this either, this is just going to have a comfortable mid-table finish I would assume.
Dotter - Bulletproof: 7,55
Yeah ok, so I have some problems here. That 'whoo whoo'-thingy in the chorus is just weird. Also, her vocals could be a notch better, especially the falsetto's are a bit meh. Song also has some pretty underwhelming production. It doesn't really shift gears anywhere and it's just missing dynamic range altogether. But let's be clear, this song is fine as it is because the melodies are pretty cool (which is the single most important thing) and all I'm saying is that there's stuff you can improve on. The Mamas have a finished product, this is a diamond missing some cuts that has the potential to be better than The Mamas. Also, Dotter seems very likable. Staging is basically just two dumb gimmicks but it works. It's cool. Keep it.
So yeah, it's The Mamas or Dotter for me. The Mamas I feel is the safest entry and I don't have that much confidence in Dotter. Brain says The Mamas, other body parts say Dotter. Better go with Dotter then.
I'll start from the bottom and work my way up:
Robin Bengtsson - Take A Chance: 6,65
This is just shit. I don't know what the hell this is doing here. It has no originality, the lyrics are stupid, the production is laughable. Dude tries to make something out of this train wreck and kind of pulls this off, but he isn't the best singer around and has to rely on his charm to get anywhere. This will just not even qualify in Rotterdam. Horrible.
Frida Öhrn - We Are One: 6,68
Much like the one before. Very unoriginal, old-fashioned production, dumb lyrics. I mean it's kind of entertaining as some sort of Disney-like spectacle, but just gtfo Sweden. This has to rank among the least interesting songs I have ever heard.
Ellen Benediktson & Simon Peyron - Surface: 6,8
The boring production is seriously letting this song down, because there's something here. It's not melodically strong or anything and they could do a whole lot more with the staging, but there's some chemistry and I like how this song has such an effortless flow. It just sounds extremely dated in a non-ironic way, that will kill any song. If this looked and sounded like a million dollars, it would be among the potential winners. Now it's just dead.
Drängarna - Piga & dräng: 6,85
Yes, I'll grab my beer and raise it to a song like this, but inside I'm still cringing. This is children's music. There is nothing to listen to, this is just goofing out. There's a time and a place for that, obviously. Just hope that's not ESC 2020. For what it is, it's genuinely fun and entertaining, but it's not something I rate.You can be fun and entertaining while having an interesting song, see The Roop or Icelandic Dathi this ESC season.
Anis Don Demina - Vem e som oss: 6,88
So they simply rip off Macklemore and think they can get away with this? No.
Paul Rey - Talking in my sleep: 6,90
This has no identity at all. This is just Ed Sheeran and I really hate that idiot, both his music and his stupid melodies (Castle on the Hill was magnificent though). I can't for the love of god work out why people would listen to shit like this willingly. What are they actually listening to? The instrumentals do absolutely nothing beyond giving a beat and some chords to sing over and the melodies are boring. This is pop music at its worst. A quite competent polished turd.
Mendez feat. Alvaro Estrella - Vamos amigos: 6,9
Yeah ok, this is fun and all, but ugh. Production is so basic, such vapid lyrics, vocal performance is nothing special. There's no oomph to this and then there's the cringy Spanish stuff (could you be any more American?). I can see why people like this as a summery dance track, but leave that shit to the pro's please. This is just bad.
Hanna Ferm - Brave: 7,00
If she had tits she would be like 9,5/10 in the looks department, but this is still going to be entertaining me for 3 minutes whatever she does and this also means that I simply feel sorry for her that she just doesn't have the pipes and this song is just tedious and utterly unimpressive. Let's just say that if she was a man she would rank just above Robin Bengtsson and all that applies there also applies here. She's still young and can improve, she should keep trying but please make it interesting next time.
Mariette - Shout It Out: 7,00
Finally something competent then. This has decent production, if a bit predictable. Staging has issues, but there's an idea. Vocals are decent. Main problem here is that this song really just has a single bullet and it's already fired in the first chorus. Rest of the song is basically plodding and this would be okay if this is actually interesting, but I just don't feel like it's strong melodically in any way. I wouldn't mind this song in Rotterdam, but it's just too weak to do anything.
Mohombi - Winners: 7,03
This is soooo Sweden. This song has pretty much every box checked. Everything that has been popular in the last decade is in this song. None of that really matters, because they are just cameo's and basically easter eggs for those who listen carefully. Song itself beyond that is just solid, but nothing great. It never really shifts gears and although this is fine as it is I then have problems with the singer. He doesn't have the vocals or the charm to really elevate this in any way. Net result is that this is just kind of there. Who is going to vote for this?
Malou Prytz - Ballerina: 7,08
If you can do this at age 16 that's impressive. Vocals are still way too unstable, song isn't great, but she can perform. This was entertaining even though there wasn't that much happening. She should simply try again in coming Melfests. I think she understands that she has the power to unbutton pants with her eyes. That's a rare skill.
Anna Bergendahl - Kingdom Come: 7,18
There's a lot of buzz around this track, but I don't know why. Seems sickeningly derivative and although it kind of dodges that bullet somehow I'm not convinced that stuff like this actually works. It's a barrage of strong melodies, so there's certainly going to be some appeal there but it sounds so painfully old-school Sweden I can't imagine people really voting for this in droves and the jury is not going to like this one, that's for sure. Other problem: are you going to go for the dancers or the backing vocals? Problematic entry, I think it's very overrated.
Victor Crone - Troubled Waters: 7,23
One of those happy IKEA commercials. Just die please. I know this is something a lot of people like, but I can just feel my brain cells dying when I listen to this.
Felix Sandman - Boys With Emotions: 7,23
If he can fix his vocals this is actually a pretty cool track. I don't mind this. The lyrics are hammy, but they raise an issue that I'm okay with. I like the production here a lot, the melodies are weak but that doesn't really matter that much here. Staging is okay I guess. Yeah, I can get behind this one. Problematic vocals, but it's underrated right now. Still, we're talking Sweden here. Sweden has to do better than an entry like this.
The Mamas - Move: 7,55
Strong vocals? Absolutely. Strong melodies? Yes. Good production? Kind of, it's fine. Good staging? Could do more, but it works like this. Entertaining? Sure. Yeah, this is just a strong entry then. That tall one is MILFing the shit out of all the papas as well. There are no obvious downsides to this either, this is just going to have a comfortable mid-table finish I would assume.
Dotter - Bulletproof: 7,55
Yeah ok, so I have some problems here. That 'whoo whoo'-thingy in the chorus is just weird. Also, her vocals could be a notch better, especially the falsetto's are a bit meh. Song also has some pretty underwhelming production. It doesn't really shift gears anywhere and it's just missing dynamic range altogether. But let's be clear, this song is fine as it is because the melodies are pretty cool (which is the single most important thing) and all I'm saying is that there's stuff you can improve on. The Mamas have a finished product, this is a diamond missing some cuts that has the potential to be better than The Mamas. Also, Dotter seems very likable. Staging is basically just two dumb gimmicks but it works. It's cool. Keep it.
So yeah, it's The Mamas or Dotter for me. The Mamas I feel is the safest entry and I don't have that much confidence in Dotter. Brain says The Mamas, other body parts say Dotter. Better go with Dotter then.
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So after the last semi it just has to be either Anna or Dotter to Eurovision, nothing else is worthy.
Semi 4 had a slightly higher average than the other semis, with Nanne having the only dreadful entry, on the other hand everything was pretty bland and forgettable and I really don't see what's so special with Hanna Ferm's entry? Dated TeenPop with pretty bad live vocals. I'd rather have "Surface" and "Molnljus" directly to the final over Hanna and Victor, not a fan of Frida's entry, she has nice vocals but the song was pretty banal.
Gooo Anna or Dotter !!!
Nothing else from this year's MF would be worth sending to ESC!
Semi 4 had a slightly higher average than the other semis, with Nanne having the only dreadful entry, on the other hand everything was pretty bland and forgettable and I really don't see what's so special with Hanna Ferm's entry? Dated TeenPop with pretty bad live vocals. I'd rather have "Surface" and "Molnljus" directly to the final over Hanna and Victor, not a fan of Frida's entry, she has nice vocals but the song was pretty banal.
Gooo Anna or Dotter !!!
Nothing else from this year's MF would be worth sending to ESC!
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PinchyCrabstina
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My only hope is Anna now. Her winning would be so epic.
Dotter is decent but it would just be another continuation of what we've been sending this past decade except it's a female singer. I don't quite understand fans who complain about Sweden being generic but at the same time have Dotter as their favorite. In my mind Dotter's entry embodies everything that I'm sick of in regards to my country's efforts in ESC.
Dotter is decent but it would just be another continuation of what we've been sending this past decade except it's a female singer. I don't quite understand fans who complain about Sweden being generic but at the same time have Dotter as their favorite. In my mind Dotter's entry embodies everything that I'm sick of in regards to my country's efforts in ESC.
Uto
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There literally is nothing else. The entirety of Melfest is comprised of Melfest-rejects. Anna fits this bill as well as all the others.
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i actually get this criticism of bulletproof but dotter has what frans, robin and john lacked, which is personality. the performance, while clearly planned to the last hair strand to the point where dotter becomes replaceable (she clearly didn't have much creative control in this), is not sanitised to oblivion and removed of any quirk and made picture-perfect, thanks to dotter's diana vickers-esque indie girl stock voice and her commitment to making the choreo look sexy, a first for sweden in eurovision if she wins (before dotter, the idea of a sexy swedish woman in eurovision was............ lena ph? which, sweetie...). in my view she shares this with one dear benji ingrosso, but of course, he was sweden's televote flop, so i am not sure how much water my view holds in this case.
still hoping for #bergendeption though lol.
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Will try to rank the finalists and I honestly think it's a quite strong final overall.
1. Dotter- Bulletproof
2. Hanna Ferm- Brave
3. Anna Bergendahl- Kingdom Come
4. The Mamas- Move
Will be happy if one of these four win, also my top 3 songs will probably switch places with eachother from day to day.
Then we have gap down to the rest.
5. Mohombi- Winners
6. Robin- Take a Chance
7. Mariette- Shout it Out
8. Victor- Troubled Waters
1. Dotter- Bulletproof
2. Hanna Ferm- Brave
3. Anna Bergendahl- Kingdom Come
4. The Mamas- Move
Will be happy if one of these four win, also my top 3 songs will probably switch places with eachother from day to day.
Then we have gap down to the rest.
5. Mohombi- Winners
6. Robin- Take a Chance
7. Mariette- Shout it Out
8. Victor- Troubled Waters
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Hmm Itunes is perhaps not a good indicator when it comes to music in Sweden, but anyway:
1. Anna
3. Hanna
4. Dotter
5. The Mamas
1. Anna
3. Hanna
4. Dotter
5. The Mamas
