Sweden SWEDEN 2020 - The Mamas - Move

[escYOUnited]

 

[Ezio]

My Swedish ranking of the century

Bulletproof
Det gör ont
Never let it go
If I were sorry
Too late for love
Euphoria
This is my life
You
Dance you off
Hero
11th La voix
12th Give me your love
13th I can't go on
14th Popular
15th Listen to your heartbeart
16th The worrying kind
17th Invincible
18th Las Vegas
19th Heroes
20th Undo

 

[LastDreamer]

Best :
1. Sanna Nielsen - Undo (2014) - 9
2. Anna Bergendahl - This Is My Life (2010) - 8
3. Malena Ernman - La Voix (2009) - 8
4. Fame - Give Me Your Love (2003) - 6
5. Friends - Listen To Your Heartbeat (2001) - 5

Worst :
1. Loreen - Euphoria (2012) - 0
2. Afro-dite - Never Let It Go (2002) - 0
3. Eric Saade - Popular (2011) - 1
4. Mans Zelmerlow - Heroes (2015) - 2
5. Benjamin Ingrosso - Dance You Off (2018) - 2

 

[Bellw]

Sanna should have won 2008 with Empty Room. It's much better than Undo.

 

[Ezio]

Sanna should have won 2008 with Empty Room. It's much better than Undo.

You are right. Empty room is beautiful.

 

[LoveHate]

Any news if Mohambi's spot will stay empty or another artist will take it?

Whaaaa...???

 

[reginanoctis]

Well, we TRIED our very best to send Empty Room ... But the juries didn't quite agree. (though now, in retrospect, I like Lay your love on me the most of the 2008 songs)

 

[Mainshow]

Whaaaa...???

He's got malaria.

 

[FilipFromSweden]

Mohombi rehersed today like any other finalist

 

[LastDreamer]

For me it's almost impossible decision between "Du Och Jag Mot Varlden" and "Undo".
Both are perfect.

 

[LastDreamer]

I just imagine "Du Och Jag Mot Varlden" and "Barbie" in one ESC contest.

 

[FilipFromSweden]

My last ranking of the finalists

Bulletproof -10 votes from me
Boys With Emotions - 5 votes from me
Troubled Waters - 5 votes from me

Brave - 2 votes from me
Talking In My Sleep - 2 votes from me
Kingdom Come
- top 6 I'm fine with winning
Vamos Amigos
Vem E Som Oss
Move
Take A Chance
Winners
Shout It Out

 

[Mainshow]

Mohombi rehersed today like any other finalist

Thank you! That's such a relief! I low-key enjoy his song

 

[NikolaiMoller]

Please Dotter!

Or at least Anna or The Mamas

 

[alca]

Well I had no idea about Mohombi! That explains why he didn't attend the welcome party last night. Today he rehearsed just fine. He also changed the performance. He has 4 dancers with him and they placed that thing he has on stage in a line, not a circle as it was in the semi.

It's incredible that The Mamas are so high in the odds! Even in the first semi I thought they would just make it to AC. A DTF was a dream (that came true!). They still have my favorite song but I want Dotter to win. The song grew on me these last 2 days and I can't stop listening to it!

I'm shifting between #teamDotter and #teamAnna on a daily basis, both would be fine winners in my book ! I don't recall last time I had two entries I thought were equally worthy winners in MF, I mean I always liked a couple of entries, but to root for two entries as potential winners has been unusual for me.

Same here! Up until this morning I was thinking of these two! It's 2008 all over again. When I played Empty Room and Hero all day and every time each song was over, I wanted it to win. It's the same with Anna and Dotter. I'm fine with both of them but I think Dotter will do better. Or maybe it's just that I like Dotter a lot more.

My top 3
The Mamas
Dotter
Anna

 

[opinionsigotem]

SVT's own page claims The Mamas are the likely winner, with Dotter 2nd and Anis Don Demina 3rd in televote at least

Melodifestivalen

Melodifestivalen

blogg.svt.se

I know this is just some random podcast poll but wig @ nobody voting for Felix

 

[Nemo89]

After days, days and days of words of love towards "Bulletproof" of some members of EscYOUnited , I wanted to listen to this song (I rarely listen to unofficial songs).

After days, days and days that I read that Sweden will win or win Russia (which has not even made its song official), I wanted to ascertain if it was true (I am rarely interested in seeing these things).

After days, days and days that I hear the songs of Lithuania (which has to resort to a ballet due to a not irresistible refrain), Iceland (thanks to the viral brainwashing) and Israel ("Waka Waka"? No, it's beautiful! "Austria, Michael Jackson!"? It's horrendous! ), I wanted to taste a new soup

My question is, after hearing Dotter's song, "Is this the best Sweden can give?" I came to retrain Ukrikke (which I never thought I would write ). The sound of "Bulletproof" is not horrendous but it is banal (a copy of that style that is popular among American teenagers ). I tried to get involved in the music, to hum but I didn't succeed: everything revolves around the almost tiring repetition of "Bulletproof". When you try to get the melody inside you it disappears and you are awakened by a "Bulletproof!" This is synonymous with musical poverty. The "Bulletproof" used for stoppers. Focusing on an energetic refrain without taking care of the rest (the rest with the function of making time pass and nothing more). The beauty is that many users have joked about "You are" from "The best in me" from France and "Release me" from Belgium ... here I have seen worse

I hope Sweden opts for another choice, Dotter is the weaker choice. Then everyone is free to do what they want.

Anyway, don't worry, if my cousin Ingrosso with his "soporific song" was rewarded and raised in the ranking (to then sink into the audience's votes), Dotter will play his chance of victory (in the hope that Denmark, Norway and Finland qualify). This year, thanks to Lundvik and Gson, France also joined the group. At best it is insured "Top 10"

 

[Uto]

I hope Sweden opts for another choice, Dotter is the weaker choice. Then everyone is free to do what they want.

Nemo, this is Melfest. The rest Sweden has on offer is more of the same, but worse. There is *no* variety in Melfest, it's all completely hollow pop music. It's all equally emotionless and at least Bulletproof is able to trick you into thinking there is *some*.

An Italian would feel an emotion and has to answer the question of how to turn it into music that works. The Swede starts with a formula that creates music that works, but has to answer the question of how to turn it into emotion. Both are flawed approaches, but both approaches work when you commit to it.

 

[Nemo89]

Nemo, this is Melfest. The rest Sweden has on offer is more of the same, but worse. There is *no* variety in Melfest, it's all completely hollow pop music. It's all equally emotionless and at least Bulletproof is able to trick you into thinking there is *some*.

An Italian would feel an emotion and has to answer the question of how to turn it into music that works. The Swede starts with a formula that creates music that works, but has to answer the question of how to turn it into emotion. Both are flawed approaches, but both approaches work when you commit to it.

I don't want to say and accept that "Swedish music is empty". I think they are very good at writing music (I still remember and esteem bands like ABBA and Europe) but today they have relied only on the "industrial method".

What upsets me is not the new "Swedish method" or Bulletproof but it is the exaggerated admiration of some Eurofans who judge more with the heart than with the brain.

I love the words you wrote. You expressed a "musical racism". We Italians (we too happen to write bad music) it is true that we are very faithful to the emotion but to say that we do not adopt a "method" is the most distant from reality and a sterile defense to the "new method". Music theory was born in Italy. What is written on the musical scores? "Andante", "Presto", "Prestissimo", "Largo". We also apply a formula but try not to be slaves to that formula and to experiment with other formulas. Music, however, is an emotion. How to make people's hearts vibrate, how to make them dream if the emotion is artificial? We start from the concept of emotion and try to structure our composition. Never forget that before every emotion is born, the formula for us is always present.

 

[Alaska49]

k the mamas and their non-song need to be stopped right now lol don't let them near the victory

 

[Uto]

I don't want to say and accept that "Swedish music is empty". I think they are very good at writing music (I still remember and esteem bands like ABBA and Europe) but today they have relied only on the "industrial method".

What upsets me is not the new "Swedish method" or Bulletproof but it is the exaggerated admiration of some Eurofans who judge more with the heart than with the brain.

I love the words you wrote. You expressed a "musical racism". We Italians (we too happen to write bad music) it is true that we are very faithful to the emotion but to say that we do not adopt a "method" is the most distant from reality and a sterile defense to the "new method". Music theory was born in Italy. What is written on the musical scores? "Andante", "Presto", "Prestissimo", "Largo". We also apply a formula but try not to be slaves to that formula and to experiment with other formulas. Music, however, is an emotion. How to make people's hearts vibrate, how to make them dream if the emotion is artificial? We start from the concept of emotion and try to structure our composition. Never forget that before every emotion is born, the formula for us is always present.

Of course my words were far more forceful to ever do justice to reality, but you get what I was going for. Both the Italian tradition and the Swedish tradition have to be respected, but it takes two different pairs of glasses to look at them, a luxury you don't have at Eurovision where these songs have to clash.

Myself, being brought up in the Dutch tradition, feel more at home with the Italian entries normally. Understanding this requires a rather in-depth knowledge of Dutch music as a whole, but I think it's best summarized as follows: there is Dutch music made for a global market (usually EDM) that feels 'Swedish', music made for the Dutch market (usually rock or folk) feels 'Italian'. Both are successful, but the schism between these styles is very obvious. The music that is memorable, that touches you, is always part of the latter group. To me, there is something inherently wrong with music that does not go for the heart so to speak. This discussion tends to flare up on these boards, but usually they're in the ballad vs bop form instead of the emotion vs fun or more precise b-endorphine/cortisol vs dopamine form.