San Marino SAN MARINO 2018 - Jessika ft. Jenifer B - Who We Are
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Quent91
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Valentina please, but with a GOOD SONG not written by Ralph Siegel !
Valentina please, but with a GOOD SONG not written by Ralph Siegel !
RainyWoods
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As jbusic writes, it does indeed feel like the Facebook scenario all over again, and it's a fact actually that Valentina was called in at the last moment. I remember her saying so in an interview. It's extremely sad what happened, and it confirmed my fears from the first time I listened to the song. I knew things were going to be spoiled, but not quite this bad. 1 point is devastating, and it has heavily tarred her legacy. Ralph Siegel has done a lot for Valentina, and we fans must be thankful, but it's at the point now where she's being held back. Her heart is in jazz and we just watched a jazz song win Eurovision. Someone needs to write her a sophisticated piano ballad, that she can pour her heart into. She writes music herself even. She doesn't deserve to end her Eurovision journey in the sad way in which she has.
I really don't want San Marino to leave. They're my favourite Eurovision country
As jbusic writes, it does indeed feel like the Facebook scenario all over again, and it's a fact actually that Valentina was called in at the last moment. I remember her saying so in an interview. It's extremely sad what happened, and it confirmed my fears from the first time I listened to the song. I knew things were going to be spoiled, but not quite this bad. 1 point is devastating, and it has heavily tarred her legacy. Ralph Siegel has done a lot for Valentina, and we fans must be thankful, but it's at the point now where she's being held back. Her heart is in jazz and we just watched a jazz song win Eurovision. Someone needs to write her a sophisticated piano ballad, that she can pour her heart into. She writes music herself even. She doesn't deserve to end her Eurovision journey in the sad way in which she has.
I really don't want San Marino to leave. They're my favourite Eurovision country
GianlucaTomoe
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Withdrawal is the only reasonable option here. SMRTV simply doesn't know how to do Eurovision.
Withdrawal is the only reasonable option here. SMRTV simply doesn't know how to do Eurovision.
jbusic
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OMG!!! Just came across this article.
Valentina says she is open to participating again, but it may be for a country other than San Marino. Apparently she got approached by delegations of other countries!!!!
http://www.libertas.sm/notizie/2017...t-unimportante-esperienza-la-serenissima.html
OMG!!! Just came across this article.
Valentina says she is open to participating again, but it may be for a country other than San Marino. Apparently she got approached by delegations of other countries!!!!
http://www.libertas.sm/notizie/2017...t-unimportante-esperienza-la-serenissima.html
ESCada
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I can see them withdraw and even though it makes me sad ...... It's kinda justified.
Investing so much money for videos, promo tours etc to receive 1 point is bizarre.
I support their decision whatever it is.
PLUS, I am pretty sure there are less known Italian artist that would love to wave the San Marinese flag instead of sending one washed up act year after year.
I can see them withdraw and even though it makes me sad ...... It's kinda justified.
Investing so much money for videos, promo tours etc to receive 1 point is bizarre.
I support their decision whatever it is.
PLUS, I am pretty sure there are less known Italian artist that would love to wave the San Marinese flag instead of sending one washed up act year after year.
12Points
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I didn't know that she was living in London.
Why can't she speak English properly then? I'm wondering...
I didn't know that she was living in London.
Why can't she speak English properly then? I'm wondering...
DanielLuis
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The UNITED KINGDOM resorting to a singer from SAN MARINO in order to try and have success in a musical competition? That would be beyond hilarious.
The UNITED KINGDOM resorting to a singer from SAN MARINO in order to try and have success in a musical competition? That would be beyond hilarious.
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https://eurovoix.com/2017/06/01/san-marino-ralph-siegel-knew-no-chance/
This report really proves that doesn't even pay attention to their awful results in the ESC over the years since 2014, as they did indeed give some decent entries a try from 2008 to 2014. It's getting truly bothering as time is flying and ESC editions are taking place..
What's the point of participating then and sending a song, which is even worse than most of the songs that ended up dead last at the ESC being granted by a nul point?
https://eurovoix.com/2017/06/01/san-marino-ralph-siegel-knew-no-chance/
This report really proves that
doesn't even pay attention to their awful results in the ESC over the years since 2014, as they did indeed give some decent entries a try from 2008 to 2014. It's getting truly bothering as time is flying and ESC editions are taking place..What's the point of participating then and sending a song, which is even worse than most of the songs that ended up dead last at the ESC being granted by a nul point?
CaspianMortis
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San Marino withdrawing is kinda justified, I mean no one ever appreciates their songs.
The horrifying 2013 event proved that San Marino could never hope to qualify. I mean if Valentina had represented Italy with Crisalide she probably would have won the contest. Instead some horrible songs qualifed instead of her. The fact they qualified in 2014 was a miracle, it had to be divine intervention or something.
Maybe she should try to represent Italy?
Or maybe they just need to keep sending her until she wins.
San Marino withdrawing is kinda justified, I mean no one ever appreciates their songs.
The horrifying 2013 event proved that San Marino could never hope to qualify. I mean if Valentina had represented Italy with Crisalide she probably would have won the contest. Instead some horrible songs qualifed instead of her. The fact they qualified in 2014 was a miracle, it had to be divine intervention or something.
Maybe she should try to represent Italy?
Or maybe they just need to keep sending her until she wins.
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Denmark and Azerbaijan would have still been the front-runners in 2013 as no one was really able to beat them nor be in the lead instead of these two countries. It doesn't matter whether Valentina and her entry represented any other countries, whichever they were. Her song would've still been supposed to reach the top 10, even though she truly deserved to make it to the top 5. I do assume that she should have competed with this song back in 2014 and it'd have been much more successful than it's actually been.
Furthermore, should really start to take the whole thing much more seriously instead of picking a random singer out along with the only entrant from this country. They have to be more involved in the selection process in the same way as the since their return or - for instance - .
Denmark and Azerbaijan would have still been the front-runners in 2013 as no one was really able to beat them nor be in the lead instead of these two countries. It doesn't matter whether Valentina and her entry represented any other countries, whichever they were. Her song would've still been supposed to reach the top 10, even though she truly deserved to make it to the top 5. I do assume that she should have competed with this song back in 2014 and it'd have been much more successful than it's actually been.
Furthermore,
should really start to take the whole thing much more seriously instead of picking a random singer out along with the only entrant from this country. They have to be more involved in the selection process in the same way as the since their return or - for instance - .CaspianMortis
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If she refuses to go next year that will probably convince San Marino to quit Eurovision.
Well, Valentina is probably the only choice. There aren't many other options since when Valentina refused to participate they sent a "chain of farts" or "I got to pee inside your mind" (which was sung by a Turkish singer).
If she refuses to go next year that will probably convince San Marino to quit Eurovision.
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They aren't determined enough to select a decent entry, then they should really withdraw.
They aren't determined enough to select a decent entry, then they should really withdraw.