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Zeus

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1. France
2. Italy
3. Malta
4. Ukraine
5. Switzerland
6. Lithuania
7. Iceland
8. Bulgaria
9. Cyprus
10. Russia
 

mauve

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I won't predict ... I am mostly wrong ...

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Jopi

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one last try lmao



JURIES

01. :fr:
02. :mt:
03. :ch:
04. :se:
05. :is:
06. :it:
07. :pt:
08. :cy:
09. :bg:
10. :be:
11. :il:
12. :sm:
13. :ua:
14. :fi:
15. :lt:
16. :gr:
17. :no:
18. :es:
19. :ru:
20. :az:
21. :rs:
22. :md:
23. :al:
24. :de:
25. :uk:
26. :nl:

TELEVOTE

01. :it:
02. :ua:
03. :is:
04. :ch:
05. :sm:
06. :fr:
07. :mt:
08. :cy:
09. :fi:
10. :rs:
11. :az:
12. :lt:
13. :ru:
14. :no:
15. :se:
16. :gr:
17. :al:
18. :bg:
19. :md:
20. :pt:
21. :de:
22. :be:
23. :es:
24. :uk:
25. :il:
26. :nl:

FINAL RANKING

01. :ch:
02. :is:
03. :it:
04. :fr:
05. :mt:
06. :sm:
07. :ua:
08. :cy:
09. :se:
10. :fi:
11. :lt:
12. :rs:
13. :pt:
14. :az:
15. :bg:
16. :no:
17. :gr:
18. :be:
19. :ru:
20. :il:
21. :es:
22. :al:
23. :md:
24. :de:
25. :uk:
26. :nl:
 

Jim

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JURY:

01 France
02 Italy
03 Switzerland
04 Ukraine
05 Malta
06 Lithuania
07 Portugal
08 Bulgaria
09 Greece
10 Iceland
11 Belgium
12 Cyprus
13 Russia
14 Finland
15 Spain
16 Serbia
17 Germany
18 Sweden
19 Albania
20 United Kingdom
21 Azerbaijan
22 Israel
23 Moldova
24 Norway
25 San Marino
26 The Netherlands

TELEVOTING:

01 Italy
02 Malta
03 Ukraine
04 France
05 Iceland
06 Switzerland
07 Lithuania
08 Greece
09 Finland
10 Cyprus
11 Serbia
12 Germany
13 Albania
14 Portugal
15 Moldova
16 Bulgaria
17 Belgium
18 Russia
19 San Marino
20 Sweden
21 Azerbaijan
22 Spain
23 Norway
24 The Netherlands
25 Israel
26 United Kingdom

COMBINED:

01 Italy
02 France
03 Malta
04 Switzerland
05 Ukraine
06 Iceland
07 Lithuania
08 Greece
09 Finland
10 Cyprus
11 Portugal
12 Bulgaria
13 Serbia
14 Belgium
15 Albania
16 Russia
17 Germany
18 Spain
19 Moldova
20 Sweden
21 Azerbaijan
22 San Marino
23 Israel
24 United Kingdom
25 Norway
26 The Netherlands
 

BorisBubbles

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01. :fr:
02. :ch:
03. :it:
04. :mt:
05. :ua:
06. :is:
07. :ru:
08. :pt:
09. :lt:
10. :cy:
11. :rs:
12. :bg:
13. :gr:
14. :fi:
15. :sm:
16. :no:
17. :al:
18. :se:
19. :nl:
20. :il:
21. :be:
22. :de:
23. :az:
24. :md:
25. :es:
26. :uk:
 

GermanBango

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I am very surprised that people think France will win the Juries and not Malta. Honestly Malta is probably the most obvious jury winner since Sweden 2015.
 

tuorem

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I am very surprised that people think France will win the Juries and not Malta. Honestly Malta is probably the most obvious jury winner since Sweden 2015.
Same, I believe Malta will win the jury vote for both valid and not-so-valid reasons.
Televoting-wise, I think Ukraine may be the one to get the highest score.
 

Kitakaze

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01 🇮🇹 Italy
02 🇫🇷 France
03 🇲🇹 Malta
04 🇨🇭 Switzerland
05 🇺🇦 Ukraine
06 🇮🇸 Iceland
07 🇱🇹 Lithuania
08 🇧🇬 Bulgaria
09 🇸🇲 San Marino
10 🇫🇮 Finland
11 🇵🇹 Portugal
12 🇬🇷 Greece
13 🇨🇾 Cyprus
14 🇷🇺 Russia
15 🇷🇸 Serbia
16 🇸🇪 Sweden
17 🇳🇱 The Netherlands
18 🇧🇪 Belgium
19 🇳🇴 Norway
20 🇦🇿 Azerbaijan
21 🇲🇩 Moldova
22 🇦🇱 Albania
23 🇮🇱 Israel
24 🇩🇪 Germany
25 🇪🇸 Spain
26 🇬🇧 United Kingdom
 

Citelis

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Ukraine will win t/v and Iceland will win jury.

1. :ch:
2. :ua:
3. :is:
4. :it:
5. :lt:
6. :fr:
7. :mt:
8. :rs:
9. :se:
10. :sm:
11. :fi:
12. :pt:
13. :be:
14. :az:
15. :no:
16. :bg:
17. :cy:
18. :ru:
19. :md:
20. :il:
21. :gr:
22. :al:
23. :es:
24. :de:
25. :nl:
26. :uk:
 

Jopi

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I am very surprised that people think France will win the Juries and not Malta. Honestly Malta is probably the most obvious jury winner since Sweden 2015.
That's my instinct since Malta topped bookies. IDK why I'm now thinkg France may win juries:rolleyes:
 

Lance Esgard

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Let's see how wrong this gets:

Televote:

1 Ukraine2 Italy3 Finland4 Switzerland5 Russia6 France7 San Marino8 Iceland9 Lithuania10 Cyprus
11 Malta12 Serbia13 Norway14 Azerbaijan15 Sweden16 Bulgaria17 Portugal18 Belgium19 Greece20 Albania
21 Moldova22 Israel23 The Netherlands24 UK25 Germany26 Spain

Jury:
1 Greece2 Malta3 France4 Israel5 Switzerland6 Norway7 The Netherlands8 Sweden9 Albania10 Finland
11 Ukraine12 Iceland13 Belgium14 Portugal15 Serbia16 Italy17 Bulgaria18 San Marino19 Russia20 Lithuania
21 Spain22 Azerbaijan23 UK24 Cyprus25 Moldova26 Germany


Combined Total:
1 or 2 France1 or 2 Switzerland3 Ukraine4 or 5 Malta4 or 5 Finland6 Italy7 Norway8 Iceland9 Greece10 Sweden
11 Russia12 San Marino13 Israel14 Serbia15 or 16 Albania15 or 16 Lithuania17 The Netherlands18 or 19 Belgium18 or 19 Portugal20 Bulgaria
21 Cyprus22 Azerbaijan23 Moldova24 or 25 Spain24 or 25 UK26 Germany

I can see any of the top 6 winning, but far less so for winning. San Marino and Russia are wildcards. San Marino from the Flo Rida factor which could also play out in the jury vote and Russia due to the message factor that could activate people who wouldn't otherwise vote. Either of those nations I can see doing well better than expected (or not). I can easily see The Netherlands doing worse in the jury vote, but there are where they are in this prediction.
 
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FilipFromSweden

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Jury top 3:

:ch:
:mt:
:fr:

Public top 3:

:it:
:ua:
:ch:

Overall top 3:

:ch:
:it:
:mt:
 

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So hard to make an exact prediction, so here is who I believe will be in the top 10:

:fr::ua::it::ch::mt:: those 5 are the safest. if any of them misses the top 10, it would be a huge shock. I do wonder if them putting Malta so early suggests it didnt do that well in the tele, but its going to have a strong juryscore.
:is:: just too quirky to not be in the top 10. juries should reward it as well as televoters.
:lt:: probably not as juryfriendly as Iceland, but its getting a huge televoting boost from lithuanian diaspora.
:fi:: i think finland can be happy if they score more than 50 jury points.. hoping for more of course. I am expecting a great televoting score for them.

Two more missing.. so lets take a look at some contenders:
:pt:: Even though it was the surprise of the semis, I have my doubts it will get a strong televote result in the final. But it looks very likely Portugal is going to score great with juries.
:bg:: It looks like this one is going to flop with televoters. Bulgaria will have to hope for a very strong juryscore. Wouldnt completely rule it out, but it looks a bit unlikely at the moment.
:ru:: Even though Armenia and Belarus are missing, this is still Russia we are talking about. Staging and song stand out so much it could still slide into the top 10 unless the juries are super harsh towards it.
:se:: Everyone this year hopes Sweden is going to flop, but Sweden still got great jury potential. I dont think their juryscore will be as strong as in other years (probably still top 10), so for now I see them outside the top 10.
:cy:: This one is really early in the running order, which will hurt them imo. I see them outside the top 10 because I dont think the jury score will be strong.
:sm:: Probably not too juryfriendly. Wonder if the novelty of Flo Rida competing in Eurovision for San Marino will have impact on the televoters.
:az:: I actually had them as shock qualifiers before semi 1. Some of their stats do suggest they potentially did well in the televoting of semi 1... or its just people from azerbaijan being super active. Will this one surprise us?


Out of these, I'd probably pick :pt: and :ru: for the remaining two spots.
 

Lance Esgard

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In terms of a prediction of countries in top 10 I got 8/10 right, missing Lithuania and Russia (but as Russia was 11 its kinda 8.5/10). While I was off when it came to Italy, I did say that I could see it winning. I had intended to say 'far less so for Finland' but due to a typo I didn't get that part on the record.

I got three placements correct and was one place off for 7 further nations, making me very close for more than a third of the draw.
I was off by two for 3nations and off by four for another 3 making my predictions at least close about 65% of the time.

Big mistakes were very wrong placements of Norway, San Marino, Moldova and Bulgaria. I was also quite off for Lithuania, Portugal and The Netherlands.

For the televote I got 8 out of 10, missing Serbia and Greece. I got two placements correct in Norway and Spain. Because Spain was joint last with three other nations, meaning places 23-26 cannot really be separated, I might have technically gotten a total of five placements right. Beyond that I was off by one for 3 nations, so together with those I was very close for a little less than a third of the time. I was off by two for 5nations and off by three for 6, making me pretty close for around three quarters of the time. I was off by four for a further 3 nations. I was at least close around 85% of the time.

My big mistake was the very wrong placement of San Marino (very off) and I was also quite off for Greece and Moldova.

The jury was where I made a lot of errors. I only now have found out what instructions the jury were given courtesy of ESCInsight (at least what was true of 2013 and earlier) and so that will inform me in future years. I was only reasonably close only 42% of the time. I did manage to get San Marino and Belgium correct though.
 
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