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Morty

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@Morty @Stargazer I follow the official rules, according to which a new country is a player joining NSC under new country name (eg Amhr). A new country is not:
- player rejoining NSC under old name (eg Kamande)
- country changing name (eg Tuzi)
- country changing ownership (eg Aimulli)
- any combination of above (eg UEHPX)
When it comes to Amhr, I'm a rebel. I know Amhr was supposed to be treated as a completely different nation from 10ROM, but it was still the same person behind it, and I go by person(s) on this one. But then Aimulli messes up that, by changing owner... Who said this was supposed to be easy? :p
When it comes to Kamandé, it was actually a new nation in NSC 57, since he had previously been in NSC as Orovoda. Dunno what he used during the WL period tho...
When it comes to Prasia/Xanadu, I've noticed that I've treated them different to Leonesia & St. Lotus, and Srivijaya & Sasentia. If it hadn't been for my final in NSC 66, where Xanadu gave me 0 points, I'd probably have put the United Empire under Prasia instead. And if I had joined in NSC 37, or St. Lotus had stayed until NSC 43, that would have been a similar case as well.

Ah ok, that makes sense. I was about to ask why I have a star next to mine, but then I remembered "Hielito" was a thing :lol:
Yeah, Hielito is the reason. ;) ZEgreen Island (NBS), Groonrorm (Sillycone Valley) and Lacreus are other one-off specials. :)
 

Veliky

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Kamandéan top 10 given points (semi-finals points are worth 50 % of their value):
01Rumia259
02Vylkuzeme150
03Trollheimr147
04Ujedinjeni Gvozd141
05Fervorosia139
06Kordavian Islands128
07Roseland120
08Ugaly117
09QuiénDQ116
10Balearica Island115

Top 10 received points:
01Rumia234
02Vylkuzeme186
03Trollheimr170
04Balearica Island124
05Ugaly117
06Yaponesia115
07Zombira114
08Noizeland103
09Sakuralia98
10Ujedinjeni Gvozd93

Rumia love story.
And Ugaly having the same amount received and given.

That's all. xdance
 

Fearnavigatr

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A new country is not:
- player rejoining NSC under old name (eg Kamande)
- country changing name (eg Tuzi)
- country changing ownership (eg Aimulli)
- any combination of above (eg UEHPX)
I would like to point out though that "fusion nations" such as UEHPX, Comodina, Maccha-Brugia et al. have usually been a special case. They do indeed inherit/continue the results and statistics of one nation and do not start from a blank slate, but they're treated as a new separate nation for history purposes such as Congrats/Absolutely Everybody eligibility.
 

My Star

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I would like to point out though that "fusion nations" such as UEHPX, Comodina, Maccha-Brugia et al. have usually been a special case. They do indeed inherit/continue the results and statistics of one nation and do not start from a blank slate, but they're treated as a new separate nation for history purposes such as Congrats/Absolutely Everybody eligibility.


Every part of the above conversation is why I love this community.
 

dogmeat

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I would like to point out though that "fusion nations" such as UEHPX, Comodina, Maccha-Brugia et al. have usually been a special case. They do indeed inherit/continue the results and statistics of one nation and do not start from a blank slate, but they're treated as a new separate nation for history purposes such as Congrats/Absolutely Everybody eligibility.
But UEHPX was not a fusion nation. Xanadu was not in NSC at that point, therefore it's technically the same as if Sarp invited his grandma to join Prasia.
 

berlyda

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But UEHPX was not a fusion nation. Xanadu was not in NSC at that point, therefore it's technically the same as if Sarp invited his grandma to join Prasia.
Yes, exactly the same, except for the fact that the nation's name literally has 'Xanadu' in it, and Mackan himself was directly involved :unsure: For that matter, Comodina was formed after Medina had already left the contest too. If neither of those are fusion nations, then the definition of a 'fusion nation' is very lacking
 

Fearnavigatr

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If Sarp's Grandma previously had a nation in NSC and Prasia/Leylâ invited her, changing the name to reflect her previous NSC history, then sure, it'd be the same.

One active nation absorbs a defunct nation, that's literally what all of them are, regardless if the fusion happened concurrently with the withdrawal or not. But in the interest of fair play, that's also why they're only counted separately in instances where it doesn't really matter to the main contest, while for statistics and PQs it's always treated the same as just a name change for the "parent nation".

Why? Because this was the precedent set by the first fusion, Maccha-Brugia, back in the early days when we mostly made up our rules as we went, and everyone just went along with it.

This set up kind of falls outside of the contest rules' actual jurisdiction, it's more of a role-play lore and spin-off matter. Be my guest though if you want to push for a change or more official clarification.
 
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theditz83

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Can't wait to cause even more confusion for you all by inviting back Mooseland & Zaprya to form the United States of MoisantiMoosePrya :lol:

Wish my brain had time to process all this stuff but I'm happy just discovering new tunes and pushing for those PQ spots. Also if it's someone's own stats for their nation's performance and for their own reference, surely they can feel free to make up their own criteria for classifying the nations? Like has been said, it's not anything official and is just something additional out with the regular contest rules that doesn't affect anyone xup
 

pras

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Prasia/Leylâ is the only predecessor and successor of UEoHPAX for me. I do consider the Prasia/UEoHPAX/Leylâ periods as one unit and idependent from my own forum account&personal character etc. So I would add UEoHPAX votes to the Prasia/Leylâ column if I had any type of cumulative scoreboards. But it's just my point of view :giggle:
 

Stargazer

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Prasia/Leylâ is the only predecessor and successor of UEoHPAX for me. I do consider the Prasia/UEoHPAX/Leylâ periods as one unit and idependent from my own forum account&personal character etc. So I would add UEoHPAX votes to the Prasia/Leylâ column if I had any type of cumulative scoreboards. But it's just my point of view :giggle:
Yay so my instinct was correct! :giggle: Now please come back to us!
 

anaraqueen

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someone: a
me: did you knOW WE HAVE A NF NOW PLEASE VOTE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

 

Sean

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I've been playing around and made a few updates.

First of all, everyone currently on the roster and WL should now have access to the NSC private forum after I overhauled the outdated list we had.

Secondly, anyone who is also in this category can now tag members and send notifications which previously did not work properly for sending voting reminders etc. Please do not abuse this as I will remove this again for anyone who doesn't use it sparingly...
 

berlyda

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I've been playing around and made a few updates.

First of all, everyone currently on the roster and WL should now have access to the NSC private forum after I overhauled the outdated list we had.

Secondly, anyone who is also in this category can now tag members and send notifications which previously did not work properly for sending voting reminders etc. Please do not abuse this as I will remove this again for anyone who doesn't use it sparingly...
Thank you Sean! xbowxbowxbow
 

AshleyWright

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inspired by other players posting theirs, here is Solentoyas voting since debut:

Some of the red 0s to show other finalist may possibly be wrong, but idc enough to double check and fix it. I have my semi votes recorded also, but not quite up to date.
 

theditz83

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Chat Box reboot :eek:

For those that may not check that section of the forum regularly, you may be unaware that NSC's little sibling, the beautiful WLSC, celebrates its 200th edition this coming weekend when we will visit Utopolis for the first time.

In the interests of camaraderie and 'cos we love nothing more than a good celebration, I'd like to invite all past and present NSC nations to join this special anniversary edition of WLSC with us all. We already have ::tro on board as well as regular honorary WLSC participants ::moi ::sol ::ros ::ems ::tan and ::ous so the more the merrier!

You can post your entries in the registration thread >>here<< or send the details in a new conversation to the show host Uto.

In addition, Moisantia is celebrating our WLSC heritage with a 20-song Mega NF for WLSC 200 - we've invited back 20 previous WLSC competitors to battle it out for a second chance at glory, so if you have some time please check it out and send me your votes (heck, there's even a recap video, cos recap voting is back baby!). Link for the NF >>here<<
 
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Stargazer

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In the interests of camaraderie and 'cos we love nothing more than a good celebration, I'd like to invite all past and present NSC nations to join this special anniversary edition of WLSC with us all.
All of us listening through 80+ WLSC entries.

 
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