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I just had to make this thread after reading some of the comments in the rehearsals topic.
It seems to me that people are obsessing with voices and performances and that the songs aren't important any longer. I've read many comments now that goes something along the line "I don't like the song, but she has a great voice so she should qualify".
Wait a sec... so if you don't like the song why should it qualify then if it's a song contest?
Now don't get me wrong. I know performances are important integrated parts in the contest, but in the end of the day we do look for the best songs don't we?
Do we really need another Idol?
Let's see, and this is offcourse my own subjective opinion, what differs Eurovision with the "Idol" type of programs.
- Firstly Eurovision got a long history of its own and a strong concept and doesn't need to rely on others. The "Idol" concept is basically a karaoke contest concept where record companies have made TV-shows out of their auditions rather than just holding internal auditions. All "Idol" shows (Idol, X-Factor etc) are all loosely based and more or less copies of eachother and the original "Popstars" idea from 1999. With all these shows on the market, does Eurovision really have to follow?
- Eurovision is the only music show contest of its kind where the focus lies on the songs. The concept is build around having new songs competing rather than just "big" voices singing already known songs. This means that the concept is fundamentally different and staring blindly on just voices in a contest with the concept of bringing original songs, can really harm the contest and its concept and the overall song quality imo.
- Eurovision is in theory open for country's biggest names in music to compete and to showcase what's popular in those markets, wheres Idol is a concept to give a record contract to a newcomer/amateur based on singing covers.
- Whether the "Idol" concept has been multiplied 10000x times already, Eurovision still stands alone as the biggest annual music event of its kind and the fact that it's not copied a million times makes it even more unique and interesting. Do we really need to change that?
So my question is: How is Eurovision a song contest when people are forgetting the songs? :? Are people surprised that the quality in songs are falling if all focus lies on the voices and performances?
Now don't get me wrong, I KNOW that this is also a visionary show and all that and offcourse we should not overlook talent when we see/hear it, but have we totally forgotten the songs? In the end of the day looking at the bigger picture some of the most successful artists in the world may have not always been the best live singers, but they have songs that people want to hear and remembers.
It is not "Eurovision Idol", it is "Eurovision SONG Contest" afterall.
So what do you think? Are we forgetting the songs in all of this?
It seems to me that people are obsessing with voices and performances and that the songs aren't important any longer. I've read many comments now that goes something along the line "I don't like the song, but she has a great voice so she should qualify".
Wait a sec... so if you don't like the song why should it qualify then if it's a song contest?
Now don't get me wrong. I know performances are important integrated parts in the contest, but in the end of the day we do look for the best songs don't we?
Do we really need another Idol?
Let's see, and this is offcourse my own subjective opinion, what differs Eurovision with the "Idol" type of programs.
- Firstly Eurovision got a long history of its own and a strong concept and doesn't need to rely on others. The "Idol" concept is basically a karaoke contest concept where record companies have made TV-shows out of their auditions rather than just holding internal auditions. All "Idol" shows (Idol, X-Factor etc) are all loosely based and more or less copies of eachother and the original "Popstars" idea from 1999. With all these shows on the market, does Eurovision really have to follow?
- Eurovision is the only music show contest of its kind where the focus lies on the songs. The concept is build around having new songs competing rather than just "big" voices singing already known songs. This means that the concept is fundamentally different and staring blindly on just voices in a contest with the concept of bringing original songs, can really harm the contest and its concept and the overall song quality imo.
- Eurovision is in theory open for country's biggest names in music to compete and to showcase what's popular in those markets, wheres Idol is a concept to give a record contract to a newcomer/amateur based on singing covers.
- Whether the "Idol" concept has been multiplied 10000x times already, Eurovision still stands alone as the biggest annual music event of its kind and the fact that it's not copied a million times makes it even more unique and interesting. Do we really need to change that?
So my question is: How is Eurovision a song contest when people are forgetting the songs? :? Are people surprised that the quality in songs are falling if all focus lies on the voices and performances?
Now don't get me wrong, I KNOW that this is also a visionary show and all that and offcourse we should not overlook talent when we see/hear it, but have we totally forgotten the songs? In the end of the day looking at the bigger picture some of the most successful artists in the world may have not always been the best live singers, but they have songs that people want to hear and remembers.
It is not "Eurovision Idol", it is "Eurovision SONG Contest" afterall.
So what do you think? Are we forgetting the songs in all of this?
