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Have we heard the winner of Eurovision 2025 yet?

ZoboCamel

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I'll go with a tentative no.

Maybe Finland could scrape over the line, if juries get on board and the remaining reveals are all underwhelming; maybe Czechia could do it, if the final version of the song impresses and gets good staging; but I think more often than not, the winner is going to be something we haven't heard yet. One of the internals.
 

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I've said for a while that I think "Južina" is winning Eurovision if somehow it can get past the Croatian national final, but I don't see that happening. Given that...mayyybeeee? I think Estonia will go down absolutely huge with the televote and that its hate train is more of a Eurovision bubble thing than its fandom* but I think will get tamped down with the juries. Finland *might* but I actually also think it could be a tough jury sell. Måns is just about out of the running with his entry but maybe people like performance art about a superspreader idk. There's not much else we've heard just yet that I can look at and say, with confidence, "THAT is a Eurovision winner," and everything I've mentioned has something that I think will hold it back.

*Don't get it twisted, nothing wrong with a Eurovision bubble thing, I'm very much a part of this specific one**
**In fact, I'm so on this hate train that I even hated Käärijä, the Regina George to his Gretchen Wieners. Truly, get on my level.***
***No, really, please get on my level. Cha Cha Cha was bad then, and it's still bad now.
 

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We may have heard it but I don’t think it’s been selected yet. I think if Sweden pick Greczula we may have heard our winner. Failing that I think we are yet to hear the winner.

I’d love Malta to win, I think she will do well but won’t win. Finland is marmite, it’s too forced and I don’t see it doing well and may even fail to qualify (Finland always send these entries, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018) bookies favourites but flop at ESC. Luxembourg will do better than people think. Slovenia is either going to be top 5 or fail to qualify.

It’s a weird year. I think this is the most unpredictable in many years
 

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What are people smoking to think that :ee: or :pl: are possible winners. Literally, wtf hahaha.

:ee: will probably get a result like :fi: last year with Windows95man, maybe a little bit better. I don't see the huge televote success though. There's no song, it's based entirely on the silly performance. There's no mass appeal, elaborate fun song like Rim Tim Tagi Dim or Cha Cha Cha.

:pl:, come on guys... :pl: fans are the new :es: Eurofans now haha. They really think that this entry is the best song on earth and they are hating on eyerone who's not in their hype train. Different tastes are okay of course, but let's be real, this entry isn't anywhere near winning/ top 5/ not even top 10 in my opinion.

About some other countries:

:fi: is totally overhyped in my opinion. Bookies are desperately looking for something to bet on in this very weak Eurovision year... I mean she's a good performance and the song is rather chatchy, top 10 might be possible, but it's no winner/ top 5 material.

Same for :be:. VERY overhyped. Do your really think this song will get like 250 points from the televoters?

:se: I hope not but maybe Mans will have a shot in this weak year, even with that weak song....

:cz: I see some potential there, but we'll have to wait for the official version. It could definitely be a jury pleaser and maybe it will somehow manage to get enough televoting points too. But I guess it's not a likely contender. More a top 5/10 song.

:pt: Actually Tristeza was the first song this season that kinda gave me winner vibes. But well, we'll have to wait for the live performance in the NF and for the NF result, to know more about the Portugese chances...

:at: Apparently we're having a good and unique song (that's why we're so high in the odds too) but I won't get carried aways for now, we need to wait until the song release...
 

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People who say that Tommy Cash is Eurovision bubble... It is actually opposite. Eurovision fans HATE him. But he lives for attention and without ANY effort he is able to generate attention (both negative and positive) all around the world. All major news channels report about him right now and even negative publishing goes into engagement. Just look at the charts right now: https://kworb.net/itunes/artist/tommycash.html
Jokes aside, it is not a jury song but you cannot estimate his viralness for televoting potential.
 

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I would call Malta, Finland, Poland and Spain vote magnets, to me Estonia seems more of a escbubble thing and not something that the general public could get behind.
Wow, I would say it's the exact opposite for all these songs, except that Spain isn't even an esc bubble thing.
 

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So far no song screams obvious winner material to me, except for Poland going for "Everything and the kitchen sink" with their staging hoping the overwhelming spectacle of it all will result in votes.

Tbh I kind of like it because years where the winner is felt/known months ahead from either YouTube viewcount or bookies' betting odds are super boring.
 

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If JOSH improves his performance at Festival Da Cançao and wins, then i don't see anyone beating him in May in Basel. He will get bare minimum 350 jury points and 280 points from the televote. The quality of orchestration is absolutely unbeatable and this ballad is clearly perfection, like the peak on the genre we ever had at the contest. Not even Mans or Erika would beat him. And any other ballad pretending to compete for the victory at Eurovision, would suffer from the comparison with Tristeza because of the less "rich, complex and elaborated" instrumentation (unless we have an exact copy), especially with the juries.
 

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My money is on :cz: for now. I somehow don't think :pt: will get the staging right.

:at: and :fr: could still be contenders, looking forward to the song releases.

How would the scenario look like where :fi: is winning? This is impossible. She'll probably get 0-50 jury points and 100-150 televoting points. She won't get 300+ televoting points, the song is no Cha cha cha.
 

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Just heard "Revolution"... Sweden is totally winning this year, there's a strong lack of powerful male vocalists, plus it's Mans, plus it would be 10 years after he won eurovision, plus Österdahl may want to secure a another victory for Sweden before retiring(still salty about Käärijä not winning in 2023) and more importantly the song and it's message appears in a moment of european history where we need to come together and things need to change.
To me, these verses sums up why this song will and, dare I say, should win:

Years and years of choosing not
To see what’s happening right in front of me
But now I see
We’ll turn around our legacy
For generations that will be
The beautiful people like you

So, next year in Stockholm or are we going back to Mälmo?
 

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I feel like this year we don't really have any strong jury songs yet, although I might be comparing to both 2023 and 2024 which had such obvious jury-bait performances. On the flip side, we have loads of contenders for televote points and a lot of entries with viral potential (Finland, Malta, Estonia, KAJ if they were to win Melo).

There's a huge gap currently for a country to come in with an entry with strong jury appeal that could make it a third year in a row where the jury favourite wins. With the current lineup, I do feel like Måns could be a strong contender for the win, because that performance IS the jury-bait we don't have yet. But we've got some confirmed artists / likely winners in other countries though (France, Netherlands, Austria, Portugal) etc. who could also take up some of this space.
 

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Maybe Austria now? I am torn, but the Juries will love it and i the song will be in top 5 of the televotes, it could win the whole thing. I am waiting for France though!
 
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