Germany GERMANY 2015 - Ann Sophie – Black Smoke

[Grinch]

Dear neighbors! You didn't not deserve this result! Ann Sophie was stunning!!

You didn't give them even 1 point xhand

 

[DerMoment1608]

Just added all the different combined ranks together and calculated the average rank:
17.53, so probably rank 17 or 18

[Ofc you can't really take this as a "real result", but it shows again that Ann Sophie didnt make a bad impression at all in Europe]

I did the same right now Actually she would have ended up 19th (and 16th in Televoting, 22th in Juryvoting) if you take the ranking. With just missing out the Top 10 all the time, but nearly never doing totally bad, the 12-point-voting structure lead to a worse result than the "average opinion". Other countries got a few times into Top 10 and therefore got some points.

Combined Voting

1 Sweden 2,538
2 Russia 3,949
3 Italy 4,026
4 Belgium 5,769
5 Australia 6,667
6 Latvia 6,846
7 Estonia 9,564
8 Israel 9,718
9 Norway 10,923
10 Georgia 13,256
11 Spain 13,590
12 Serbia 14,410
13 Slovenia 14,897
14 Romania 15,282
15 Cyprus 16,077
16 Lithuania 16,692
17 Azerbaijan 17,179
18 Montenegro 17,205
19 Germany 17,538
20 Hungary 17,846
21 Poland 18,128
22 Greece 18,308
23 Austria 19,179
24 Albania 19,231
25 Armenia 19,487
26 France 20,205
27 United Kingdom 20,487

Jury Voting

1 Sweden 2,459
2 Latvia 5,216
3 Russia 5,541
4 Australia 5,595
5 Belgium 6,811
6 Italy 7,757
7 Norway 8,541
8 Israel 12,486
9 Cyprus 12,514
10 Estonia 12,919
11 Georgia 13,405
12 Austria 13,595
13 Slovenia 13,730
14 Lithuania 15,324
15 Spain 15,351
16 Germany 15,568
17 Azerbaijan 15,892
18 Montenegro 16,289
19 France 16,324
20 Greece 16,324
21 Hungary 17,000
22 Romania 18,135
23 Serbia 18,162
24 United Kingdom 18,919
25 Poland 20,135
26 Armenia 21,892
27 Albania 22,919

Televoting

1 Italy 2,553
2 Russia 3,921
3 Sweden 4,132
4 Belgium 6,132
5 Estonia 7,842
6 Israel 8,526
7 Australia 8,553
8 Latvia 9,711
9 Serbia 11,947
10 Romania 11,974
11 Spain 13,237
12 Georgia 13,368
13 Norway 14,053
14 Albania 15,184
15 Poland 15,500
16 Slovenia 15,947
17 Armenia 16,737
18 Lithuania 17,079
19 Montenegro 17,211
20 Azerbaijan 17,289
21 Hungary 17,947
22 Germany 18,105
23 Cyprus 18,579
24 Greece 18,711
25 United Kingdom 19,605
26 Austria 22,395
27 France 22,526


But this is no criticism to the voting system, the 12 points are a essential part of Eurovision. We were just very unlucky this time. Never be constantly average for everyone

 

[Brandt]

You didn't give them even 1 point xhand

Neither did Germany


I was going to watch True Blood 1 hour ago but I can't stop listening to Black Smoke, I replay over and over again, that's why I can't watch it.
There were way too much songs to get 0 point in final such as Hungary, France, Greece, Montenegro, Poland, Spain, Albania (I don't count Armenia because of Georgia's obvious 12 pointer). This one is at least 5 times better than those countries' songs. I can't get Europe at all.

 

[eugoose]

Neither did Germany


I was going to watch True Blood 1 hour ago but I can't stop listening to Black Smoke, I replay over and over again, that's why I can't watch it.
There were way too much songs to get 0 point in final such as Hungary, France, Greece, Montenegro, Poland, Spain, Albania (I don't count Armenia because of Georgia's obvious 12 pointer). This one is at least 5 times better than those countries' songs. I can't get Europe at all.

Germany doesn't have the diaspora/bloc votes to ensure it will always get some votes (even if it does poorly). I love the song, and I preferred Ann Sophie's national's performance. If she had worn the dress on her cd cover and just sang it alone (with a retro looking mic), it would've worked better than the staging they selected.

 

[Gordon_Shumway]

Here is a very entertaining article about the ESC from "Spiegel Online":
http://www.spiegel.de/kultur/musik/eurovision-song-contest-2015-viel-zu-harmoniebesoffen-a-1035371.html
It is in German and contains many "metaphorical" expressions, so it is too hard for me to translate. Maybe it's overall a little too negative, but I laughed out loud several times. Two examples:
About Ann Sophie's performance:

Die Punktenull stand bis zum Ende, was nach Ann Sophies Auftritt doch zumindest ein bisschen verwundert, weil sie die Perfomance gut meisterte: mit bratschenförmigen Poppesschwenkern, sehr passablem Gesang und schwarzem Federohrring, als sei das eine Kriegstrophäe, die sie der georgischen Düsterkrähen-Warriorin ausgerupft hatte.

And some annotations about Latvia, Estonia and Norway:

Dabei gab es sie ja, die wagemutigen Beiträge, aber sie kamen einfach nicht am risikolosen Spitzentrio-Propfen vorbei: Auf Platz sechs schaffte es die Elektronummer "Love Injected" von Aminata aus Lettland (die frappant an Ex-Queensberry-Sängerin und Dschungelcamptrulla Gabby erinnerte). Das estnische Duo Elina Born & Stig Rästa landete mit seiner liedgewordenen Post-Beischlaf-Etikette "Goodbye to Yesterday" auf Platz sieben. Und der norwegische Geständnisschunkler "A Monster Like Me" endete auf Platz acht, was nicht übel ist für einen Song, in dem jemand bekennt, als Kind mal wen gelyncht zu haben.

 

[ChrisOL]

I'm also very surprised that there is almost no shitstorm about Ann Sophie (Newspapers)
The main problem (I think) is that a country with the 11th position in televoting and juryvoting would also just get 0 points.... Even if it's missing the top 10 by one place.

It's almost just luck :/

 

[Franco]

This is only the beginning

Of course it is. It couldn't end like this.

 

[tuorem]

Ok, I'll do a detailed review of the song later but I must say "Black Smoke" is a great song! I love it! I'm glad that your former winner gave up, his song was much less interesting to me.

Ann Sophie was fantastic and the final performance was so sexy, groovy and fun. It does not sound Eurovisiony at all and it has character. Germany, you'll be in my top 10 this year.

No need to say I don't understand your zero points I can't explain it really. So many wrong things in the voting this year.

 

[Rusch]

Maybe we should consider that having 27 entries makes a bit harder. The ratio of a country geting no points shifted vom 1:1,6 to 1:1,7. Or in different words: We were 11th in four countries. Without Australia, we would have been 10th in most of them. Ok, 3 or 4 points would also not be great and I don't blame Australia for doing so well.

 

[Nikkita]

It's hilarious that people surprised when this got null points. You had to choose an interesting act such as Laing, not a jazzy Lena copy coming after a creepy loser.

 

[Jay25]

To be honest, I see no Lena connection at all
(Unlike the connection between Golorious and Euphoria 2013 >. <)

 

[theditz83]

I can totally see the Lena connection! And yet I don't see the Euphoria and Glorious connection - go figure

Either way this didn't deserve 0 points, but it was probably just too "nice" for any more...

 

[esc87fan]

Like The Makemakes, at least Ann Sophie took her "nul points" with good humor and made her own "Zeroes" video
https://www.facebook.com/annsophiemusic/videos/1140322479326735/

 

[Milos-BC]

The Austrian 0 was also a huge shock for me, but this one



Indeed, I didn't like this song as much as I liked some previous songs, but it was somewhere in the middle of my rankings and I thought it will end somewhere in the middle too. The performance was quite good, and after it finished I even thought it could sneak into the top 10. The end result left me speechless.


Truly undeserved.

 

[GermanBango]

I'm surprised how good I can handle this 0 points. I know that it didn't happen because it was a bad song but rather because it was a year with a strong Top 10 (and the current ranking system doesn't support the middle-of-the-road-songs)
Ann Sophie gave her best - it was a very cool performance. She knows that, we know that.
I think this case makes something very clear: In a Final with almost 30 participants it's just not enough to give points to each countries Top 10.(that makes only 37% of 27 participants) Maybe one should think of adding 9 and 11 points.

 

[Franco]

I'm surprised how good I can handle this 0 points.

Me, too. It feels like it's just the first half of a game and the end is yet to come.

 

[southernstars]

Like The Makemakes, at least Ann Sophie took her "nul points" with good humor and made her own "Zeroes" video
https://www.facebook.com/annsophiemusic/videos/1140322479326735/

OMG that video is the best! What a good sport

I agree with the others up there.... the Top Ten was REALLY strong, in fact the calibre just seemed to be higher than last year. I don't remember ever liking so many songs?! I thought Romania would have done better than it did, as well.

It sucks, but glad Ann Sophie hasn't taken it to heart and she seems to have a lot of support I voted for the song once (there were others I liked more). I had a feeling it wouldn't finish highly but I didn't expect nul points.

 

[Rusch]

It's hilarious that people surprised when this got null points. You had to choose an interesting act such as Laing, not a jazzy Lena copy coming after a creepy loser.

Actually I voted for Laing and I even bought me their music. But the majority of the German audience seems not to be qualified to pick a good song. I thing Ann Sophie was still better than Andreas Kümmert with in boring rock ballard. But more than 75% voted for him. LOL

 

[Uto]

I'm surprised how good I can handle this 0 points. I know that it didn't happen because it was a bad song but rather because it was a year with a strong Top 10 (and the current ranking system doesn't support the middle-of-the-road-songs)
Ann Sophie gave her best - it was a very cool performance. She knows that, we know that.
I think this case makes something very clear: In a Final with almost 30 participants it's just not enough to give points to each countries Top 10.(that makes only 37% of 27 participants) Maybe one should think of adding 9 and 11 points.

This to me is exactly how you should look at it. When the scoring rewards only those in the top you need to actually be among them and Germany wasn't. But they certainly didn't make a fool of themselves and it was a decent entry that in pretty much any other year would definitely have scored at least a few points here and there.

 

[GermanBango]

Eurovision-entries in the official German charts:
#3 "Heroes"
#21 "Rhythm inside"
#26 "Black smoke"
#44 "Tonight again"
#45 "Golden boy"
#46 "A million voices"
#51 "Love injected"
#54 "Grande Amore"
#71 "Goodbye to yesterday"
#92 "A monster like me"