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tuorem

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It all depends on what system i decide to use. The most accurate in my opinion is the one with average placings.
The biggest victim of using your system that rewards only top 10 countries is actually :az:.

:hr: is definitely going up. xyaaay

Yes, you're right, it's definitely not representative at all given a nation that shows up several times in your tops can have less points than one that scores big once. How do you calculate average placings? I would like to do that as well actually.

Yay, I heard you could finally stan Croatia, let's enjoy that precious moment :giggle:

On another note, I think my 2020 ranking has changed already... "Chains On You" has come for me big time lately. xshock1:
 

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Yes, you're right, it's definitely not representative at all given a nation that shows up several times in your tops can have less points than one that scores big once. How do you calculate average placings? I would like to do that as well actually.

Yay, I heard you could finally stan Croatia, let's enjoy that precious moment :giggle:

On another note, I think my 2020 ranking has changed already... "Chains On You" has come for me big time lately. xshock1:
I do it in excel.

:am: example from 2010 to 2019:
placings 13+11+9+6+32+15+37+17+10 equals 150 divided by 9 participations = 16,67

the lower the number, the better :D

even that system has a flaw, because some years are better than others... :LOL:
 

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I do it in excel.

:am: example from 2010 to 2019:
placings 13+11+9+6+32+15+37+17+10 equals 150 divided by 9 participations = 16,67

the lower the number, the better :D

even that system has a flaw, because some years are better than others... :LOL:
Thank you for the explanation :) Indeed it cannot be perfect due to the variable quality from one edition to another (and nations withdrawing), yet it remains the best way of assessing the consistency of a nation.

The only thing is it requires full rankings, which I don't have. :cry: I'll try to work on that when I have time.
 

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01. 🇦🇿 Azerbaijan 63
02. 🇷🇸 Serbia 56
03. 🇪🇸 Spain 55
04. 🇨🇾 Cyprus 45
05. 🇸🇮 Slovenia 44
06. 🇷🇴 Romania 42
07. 🇫🇮 Finland 34
08. 🇨🇭 Switzerland 31
09. 🇬🇷 Greece 30
10. 🇳🇴 Norway 29
 
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:az: #1 is well-deserved! Glad we both share the same favourite!

A pity your German points are tragic.
 

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I'mma make another one with averages; this time starting with 2004, because it's the first year with 35+ participants:
(btw, I gave "Lane moje" to Serbia and "Zauvijek moja" to Montenegro. It's so much easier that way.) :lol:

01. :ge: 8,86
02. :md: 9,59
03. :rs: 11,33
04. :it: 12,55
05. :gr: 13,50
06. :sm: 13,58
07. :tr: 14,78
08. :am: 15,57
09. :ba: 15,80
10. :ua: 16,00
11. :me: 16,00
12. :cz: 16,80
13. :az: 17,07
14. :sk: 17,25
15. :ru: 17,29
16. :ro: 17,47
17. :be: 18,11
18. :mk: 18,39
19. :lv: 19,22
20. :by: 19,35
21. :pl: 21,19
22. :uk: 21,44
23. :il: 21,50
24. :no: 21,56
25. :ee: 21,61
26. :sl: 21,67
27. :al: 21,78
28. :lt: 21,89
29. :ie: 22,67
30. :ch: 22,89
31. :bg: 23,14
32. :fi: 23,39
33. :de: 23,39
34. :hu: 23,46
35. :cy: 23,76
36. :fr: 24,50
37. :es: 25,00
38. :hr: 25,19
39. :is: 25,28
40. :at: 25,86
41. :pt: 26,06
42. :dk: 26,39
43. :mt: 26,83
44. :au: 27,29
45. :mc: 27,33
46. :se: 27,50
47. :nl: 29,61
48. :ad: 30,50
 

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I recently found some old rankings that I had done a few years ago for all the editions but they aren't entirely accurate cause I had listened to the songs of every year only once but I decided to include these too. So I separated the ranking in pre 2004 and post 2004 cause it's made by average placement and it would be unfair to compare contests with 20 entries to contests with 40 entries.
I counted all the countries with at least 3 entries in each category and the others will just be honourable mentions.

PRE 2004 RANKING:

01 | :ch: | 07.56...................20 | :uk: | 11.22
02 | :fr: | 07.77...................21 | :cy: | 11.33
03 | :ro: | 08.00...................22 | :be: | 11.67
04 | :yu: | 08.33...................23 | :se: | 11.71
05 | :mc: | 08.76...................24 | :ba: | 11.78
06 | :hr: | 08.82...................25 | :ee: | 12.22
07 | :tr: | 08.96...................26 | :ru: | 12.57
08 | :fi: | 09.03...................27 | :pt: | 13.08
09 | :dk: | 09.06...................28 | :at: | 13.15
10 | :it: | 09.08...................29 | :hu: | 13.25
11 | :il: | 09.42...................30 | :gr: | 13.67
12 | :es: | 09.70...................31 | :lv: | 14.00
13 | :nl: | 09.78...................32 | :is: | 14.25
14 | :de: | 10.23...................33 | :mt: | 15.25
15 | :no: | 10.26...................34 | :sk: | 15.50
16 | :lu: | 10.29...................35 | :lt: | 20.50
17 | :sl: | 10.71...................XX | :ma: | 02.00
18 | :pl: | 11.00
19 | :ie: | 11.16

2004 - 2021 RANKING:

01 | :it: | 07.45..................17 | :sl: | 18.72...................33 | :ee: | 22.47
02 | :ru: | 12.76..................18 | :se: | 18.78...................34 | :sk: | 23.00
03 | :ua: | 13.70*...............19 | :az: | 11.67...................35 | :lv: | 23.16
04 | :is: | 14.05...................20 | :gr: | 19.21..................36 | :me: | 23.36
05 | :ro: | 14.53...................21 | :by: | 19.22..................37 | :uk: | 23.37
06 | :mc: | 15.67...................22 | :sm: | 19.67..................38 | :mk: | 23.61
07 | :no: | 16.39...................23 | :al: | 19.72..................39 | :ie: | 24.74
08 | :il: | 16.39**..............24 | :pt: | 19.87..................40 | :mt: | 25.06
09 | :ad: | 16.50...................25 | :hr: | 20.00..................41 | :ge: | 25.14
10 | :dk: | 16.94...................26 | :fi: | 20.55..................42 | :nl: | 25.44
11 | :tr: | 17.33...................27 | :bg: | 20.78..................43 | :lt: | 25.53
12 | :md: | 17.53...................28 | :fr: | 21.33..................44 | :hu: | 25.57
13 | :rs: | 18.14...................29 | :ba: | 21.40..................45 | :am: | 25.93
14 | :ch: | 18.21...................30 | :be: | 21.72..................46 | :pl: | 26.13
15 | :es: | 18.54...................31 | :cy: | 22.28..................47 | :at: | 26.21
16 | :au: | 18.57...................32 | :de: | 22.31..................48 | :cz: | 28.10
............................................................................................. XX | ::sbm | 02.50

(*): I counted 2003 entry here as well
(**): Norway and Israel have the same average but Norway has two wins (2019,2021) during this period while Israel none
 
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01. 🇪🇸 Spain 63
02. 🇦🇿 Azerbaijan 63
03. 🇨🇾 Cyprus 57
04. 🇷🇸 Serbia 56
05. 🇷🇴 Romania 49
06. 🇸🇮 Slovenia 44
07. 🇫🇮 Finland 34
08. 🇨🇭 Switzerland 31
09. 🇬🇷 Greece 30
10. 🇳🇴 Norway 29
 

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01. :ge: Georgia 83
02. :md: Moldova 67
03. :sm: San Marino 65
04. :ua: Ukraine 44
05. :at: Austria 38
06. :rs: Serbia 37
07. :pl: Poland 36
08. :lv: Latvia 34
09. :ru: Russia 34
10. :it: Italy 31
10. :fi: Finland 31
 
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I actually worked this out recently, it's Serbia, closely followed by Moldova
 

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01. Cyprus 64
02. Spain 63
03. Azerbaijan 63
04. Serbia 56
05. Romania 49
06. Slovenia 44
07. Finland 44
08. Norway 41
09. Switzerland 31
10. Israel 29

3rd year in a row where the leader for my favourite has changed. :D Only 1 point splitting up the top 3. xheat
 

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01 Italy 74
02 Norway 55
03 Slovenia 55
04 Estonia 46
05 Bulgaria 42
06 Hungary 40
07 Netherlands 37
08 France 35
09 Serbia 34
10 Sweden 34


Not me secretly being a Slovenia stan all these years. Also, I do like Italy, but this is ridiculous. :lol:
 
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:ro:
:tr:
:ua:
2010​
:az:
:md:
:fr:
:ro:
:am:
:bg:
:sk:
:al:
:il:
:ua:
2011​
:es:
:bg:
:sl:
:by:
:uk:
:ee:
:gr:
:il:
:se:
:hu:
2012​
:sl:
:cy:
:is:
:se:
:ro:
:fi:
:mk:
:rs:
:ch:
:dk:
2013​
:de:
:es:
:at:
:rs:
:by:
:me:
:ch:
:md:
:fi:
:dk:
2014​
:ro:
:sl:
:pl:
:hu:
:no:
:fi:
:ua:
:gr:
:pt:
:il:
2015​
:mt:
:es:
:il:
:ch:
:ge:
:lv:
:is:
:it:
:sl:
:rs:
2016​
:bg:
:ru:
:am:
:az:
:fr:
:cy:
:hu:
:au:
:hr:
:rs:
2017​
:ro:
:by:
:it:
:pl:
:cy:
:fr:
:ua:
:ch:
:gr:
:md:
2018​
:cy:
:ua:
:az:
:dk:
:mt:
:ch:
:gr:
:pl:
:cz:
:fr:
2019​
:no:
:ch:
:al:
:it:
:ee:
:es:
:mt:
:hu:
:sm:
:by:
2020​
:az:
:rs:
:dk:
:il:
:am:
:gr:
:hr:
:mk:
:ro:
:no:
2021​
:az:
:rs:
:cy:
:sm:
:al:
:ru:
:fi:
:mt:
:md:
:sl:
2022​
:cy:
:at:
:es:
:ro:
:cz:
:ee:
:fr:
:al:
:se:
:am:
2023​
:no:
:fi:
:il:
:cy:
:uk:
:se:
:cz:
:md:
:al:
:pl:
2024​
:at:
:it:
:ge:
:cy:
:lu:
:es:
:gr:
:il:
:uk:
:cz:



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01. Cyprus 71
02. Spain 68
03. Azerbaijan 63
04. Serbia 56
05. Romania 49
06. Slovenia 44
07. Finland 44
08. Norway 41
09. Greece 33
10. Israel 32
 

EscGeek

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Posts
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Location
Milky Way
We're halfway through this decade, so let's do another one with averages, this time only for 2020s

Few ground rules:
-minimum of 3/5 participations is needed
-tiebreaker winner is the country with the highest individual rank
-the number in brackets is comparing the country to the previous decade (my post #114), the more negative the number, the better

01-:ge: 6,80 (-2,10)
02-:sm: 8,20 (-7,36)
03-:fi: 10,60 (-16,70)
04-:md: 10,60 (+0,30)
05-:no: 10,60 (-12,50)
06-:ie: 12,40 (-11,60)
07-:it: 13,60 (+1,49)
08-:at: 14,40 (-7,60)
09-:lv: 14,40 (-5,60)
10-:hr: 14,60 (-15,15)
11-:de: 15,40 (-11,30)
12-:ee: 16,00 (-11,80)
13-:am: 16,50 (-0,17)
14-:gr: 17,40 (+3,30)
15-:lt: 18,40 (-1,90)
16-:il: 18,40 (-3,10)
17-:be: 18,80 (-0,90)
18-:uk: 19,00 (-6,70)
19-:pl: 19,80 (+2,30)
20-:sl: 20,00 (+0,80)
21-:cz: 20,40 (+1,40)
22-:bg: 21,00 (-2,14)
23-:cy: 21,00 (-2,11)
24-:rs: 21,80 (+8,36)
25-:az: 22,20 (+3,60)
26-:se: 22,40 (-5,00)
27-:mt: 23,60 (-1,00)
28-:ua: 24,20 (+3,95)
29-:pt: 24,20 (-4,05)
30-:dk: 24,80 (-0,90)
31-:mk: 25,67 (+7,57)
32-:ro: 25,75 (+11,64)
33-:is: 28,20 (-1,20)
34-:es: 28,40 (+2,40)
35-:fr: 28,60 (+5,10)
36-:al: 29,60 (+10,90)
37-:au: 30,60 (+6,40)
38-:nl: 31,75 (+2,45)
39-:ch: 32,60 (+10,50)

10 most improved countries compared to 2010s


10 worst fallers compared to 2010s
 

lilka

Well-known member
Joined
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Posts
3,900
Location
Athens, Greece
Annoula alone is enough to me to say it's forever :gr: in my case.
 
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