Live EUROVISION SONG CONTEST 2022 FINAL DISCUSSION

[Sean]

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[NeoTen]

Most bookies thought Marius was way too boring in the rehearsals, we thought the singer should've got told he didn't need to hold that mic like an ice cone, and they heard a different mixing (even more backing vocals, and Pia sang like a semi note lower in the last chorus) for . Thus, Pia bottling it, Latvia not checking their own mixing (?), bam, and & do make it, given historically, slow, quiet ballads and lullabies get more jury votes.

Not a big fan of but knowing Albania , they prob got shafted by the running order and Ronela's dancing getting more ludicrous after every rehearsal.
It just shows some artists really underperformed, when their producers did bring a good enough song. I'd be really annoyed with Pia for example.

 

[NeoTen]

The highlight of the night for me was Diodato: OMG, that was stunning. And we managed to see the beauty of the idea with the sun, it was wonderful. He would have won in 2020...Maybe second.

That was ridiculous, the interval act was the actual winner!

Then again, we're gonna have a song win that basically 3 notes (and also Moldova where the only singing is fast talking in key), you underestimate televoting.

 

[HayashiM]

The "leak" is fake, 100%. It plays just perfectly into most of fandom's taste and expectations, aiming to stir even more emotions. I wish people could immediately see it for what it is and disregard it straightaway.

 

[goncalovieira]

If the results were shocking yesterday, just imagine how it is going to look tomorrow. Oh my dear Carola.

 

[Looren]

Yesterday my top 5 of the whole semi made it

I think it's the first time it ever happens

 

[midnightsun]

I don’t know why people give so much about the bookies. They are influenced by more than popularity. You seem to forget that one cannot bet against a country (at least not if the question is: who will be the winner of Eurovision?).
That means, bookies did NOT necessarily find Switzerland dull, it just dropped because people were betting on other, mostly bops, to do very well. And these people, who are betting, are not the juries. They are fans who think that song x and song y are popular, which they ARE the moment they place their bet. But that doesn’t necessarily mean that these songs get voted for in the end. Sometimes people overestimate certain songs which they obviously did yesterday.

 

[NeoTen]

I don’t know why people give so much about the bookies. They are influenced by more than popularity. You seem to forget that one cannot bet against a country (at least not if the question is: who will be the winner of Eurovision?).
That means, bookies did NOT necessarily find Switzerland dull, it just dropped because people were betting on other, mostly bops, to do very well. And these people, who are betting, are not the juries. They are fans who think that song x and song y are popular, which they ARE the moment they place their bet. But that doesn’t necessarily mean that these songs get voted for in the end. Sometimes people overestimate certain songs which they obviously did yesterday.

Because, when social media got popular, suddenly there was so much more data available to betters. Betters look for plays that have the most stats; cuz that narrows their error margins window. Just walk through the bubble in Turin, the excel sheets, they have browser extensions that monitor every social feed with engagement from the artists, they even check guys from sites like @Matt and their reactions to the songs. They check the juries socials. The abundance of stats you can make an investment in have made this event a goldmine. And made them much more reliable. So maybe that why. But it's like tapping yourself on the back, though. So.

 

[JonasS]

[...] You seem to forget that one cannot bet against a country [...]

You literally can though

 

[Looren]

I'm just going to leave this here. It looks like the results leasked and Ukraine are winning this with possibly a record points ttal on Saturday if this is true.

This is clearly fake

 

[Deleted member 12761]

I'm nervous about SF2. All of my favorites are in SF2 I hope Cyprus, Czechia and Serbia make it.

 

[mauve]

Tomorrow will be nerve-wracking. I have the bad feeling that many of my faves (San Marino (dead with the Juries), Georgia and Czech Republic) in semi 2 won't make it ... My other faves (Finland, Serbia and Sweden) should be no problem, I think.

 

[4815162342]

We've had several of these 'leaks' before and so far they were always very far away from the actual results. This one looks the most unrealistic ever. 205 televoting points would mean at least 14 sets of 12 (out of 18 votings) - so far the record has been 9x12 points.
Not only that, but the jury score is ridiculous, thats an average of 10,9 points from the jurors.. and a new record.. for a style of song juries never appreciated too much.

Also a 4 point difference from 9th place to 14th and Ukraine aside televoters and juries basically disagreeing on every single song? Plus Bulgaria having 74 points from televoters..

 

[Looren]

Tomorrow will be nerve-wracking. I have the bad feeling that many of my faves (San Marino (dead with the Juries), Georgia and Czech Republic) in semi 2 won't make it ... My other faves (Finland, Serbia and Sweden) should be no problem, I think.

I think San Marino and Czech Rep will make it !

Also I have my whole top 3 tomorrow (Estonia, North Macedonia and Azerbaijan) will be stressful

 

[crashworld]

General thoughts on the show:

The Good

• Diodato - Hands down. Top-notch! I got more chills from this performance than all the 17 performances combined.
• Pacing - I thought the general flow of the show is pretty good. Not draggy, just nice.
• Staging - It looks really beautiful if it is properly utilized with the kinetic sun.
• Onscreen graphics (ie. scoreboard, title cards) - I like them looking pretty simple and classy.

The Bad

• Camera angles - I lost count the number of times the camera angles are damn right shitty in all 17 performances and they do impact my overall viewing experience of the show. It's worse than the kinetic sun not doing what it's supposed to do.
• Lighting - Some of performances look over-exposed, some look like they forgotten to pay the electricity bills.
• Postcards - I can't believe how cheap-looking they look. Easily one of the worst in years.
• Sound - The sound that the dry ice spray made, it was so loud and distracting.

 

[mauve]

By the way that's how the press votes OAGE looked like for semi 2

 

[Zeus]

I feel it's a pattern that with 'fun' or kinda odd songs and performances, running order really matters for televoting. Yesterday as well. Latvia outperformed Albania, Moldova was even weirder, etc.

Makes me fear a bit about Serbia tomorrow. Still makes no sense to let such a different act from the rest perform 3th already.

 

[Looren]

By the way that's how the press votes OAGE looked like for semi 2

Idk how to feel, very happy 'cause Estonia is 2nd or mad 'cause Macedonia is last ?

 

[randajad]

Idk how to feel, very happy 'cause Estonia is 2nd or mad 'cause Macedonia is last ?

Indifferent, because it's OGAE.

 

[Bobjan FR]

We've had several of these 'leaks' before and so far they were always very far away from the actual results. This one looks the most unrealistic ever. 205 televoting points would mean at least 14 sets of 12 (out of 18 votings) - so far the record has been 9x12 points.
Not only that, but the jury score is ridiculous, thats an average of 10,9 points from the jurors.. and a new record.. for a style of song juries never appreciated too much.

Also a 4 point difference from 9th place to 14th and Ukraine aside televoters and juries basically disagreeing on every single song? Plus Bulgaria having 74 points from televoters..

Hum, in fact, I'm convinced that the leak is fake, but about Ukraine getting 200 points on televote... I expect it.

 

[jatojo]

Well, the German jury sends their official votes indeed on a kind of excel sheet
(They told that last year in a podcast)

And by telefax?