ESC United Mod Team
- February 10, 2021
This thread is for any general Eurovision 2023 discussion not limited to or specifically about any country's national selections or song choices.
Balkan is (geology and geography) from Julian Alps ( whole Slovenia) to Black Sea.the bottom half of slovenia is considered to be in the balkans technically i think
I thought the Julian alps weren’t included thanks for letting me knowBalkan is (geology and geography) from Julian Alps ( whole Slovenia) to Black Sea.
Balkan is (geology and geography) from Julian Alps ( whole Slovenia) to Black Sea.
Prolonging the vote to benefit Sweden?! That's just baseless aluhut territory, like, really. The producers had the results of the Semi and had a good idea that the gap between the jury and televote would be too much for Sweden to win (the semi results mirror the GF results completely). As if they really sat there during the finals, saw the 93 points for Sweden and thought "If we wait 10 more minutes, they may get 200 more points!". The gap was way too much.G'morning.
You can all go on at me now again, but this is my personal opinion and I think all should be respected, whether you agree or not.
They have spot no. 11 for Loreen for two reasons. One I think is the staging maybe (but we can’t know that for sure yet) and second, this is my personal opinion, to give Loreen the best possible starting position in the final. And her "opponent" Finland away from her with the explanation "well, you already got that preferable spot in the semi, now it’s turn for the other contender to win". Doesn’t matter which half Loreen's about to start in the GF, she will for sure get the most favourable spot, even if Finland had the most televotes in the semi.
They already did that in past years so it’s not directly only a Sweden-thing. But it’s not too late: maybe they‘re gonna prove me wrong; we‘ll see.
But the most memorable running order in that regard was imho 2019 when they put fan favorite KEiiNO in such a (considered) "bad spot" in the final to be no "harm" for Sweden. There were other hints to Sweden pandering that year, like the big jury and televote differences, the unusually long voting time at that time, which has become standard now (back then because they realized John Lundvik did not get as many televote as they wished for), Norway not being able to perform twice in the jury finale after they had technical issues etc.
That is not true. I am a geologist by profession and know exactly where the Balkan begin and end. The Balkan is a peninsula in the geographical sense. Everything else is a geopolitical game where Slovenia and Croatia are trying "to squeeze";into Central Europe insted of South Europa. What you saw in Slovenia is the cultural aspect and influence of AU and it has nothing to do with the definition of the Balkan. Slovenia and Croatia have been under the influence of the Germans since the 10thI've heard that Balkans end on Kupa river (it makes some part of Croatian/Slovenian border). Moreover Slovenia despite being South Slavic and Ex-Yugo does not feel Balkan to me (I've been there). It is already more like Austria.
But in the last years… well, you know, let me put it this way: Sweden has done a lot for Eurovision! If it was up to me, Germany should withdraw from the Big 5 and leave that spot to Sweden. I get why they are so eager to do well at Eurovision. They deserve it in a way. But not at all costs, being unfair to others. But it’s not only Sweden, not at all. So I‘ll leave it with this.
Hopefully that will also be an indication of what to expect from the graphics of the show.I´m really happy that the official album cover is that bright!
All the dark blue covers in the last two decades were enough! It´s time for a change!