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FilipFromSweden
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Imri 5 points? That's homophobia right there. He got 132 televote points in his semi. Doesn't add up
anna had too many points
and anggun getting no points is racist and xenophobic and sexist!!!!!!!!!!
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and honestly even more homophobic than imri only getting 5 points???? like yes imri is (probably?) gay but THIS is gayer
ANGGUN BEING CARRIED BY THREE HOT GYMNASTS THREW THE FIRST BRICK AT STONEWALL
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Eurovision chart entries in 
#12 Soldi
#22 Arcade
#26 She got me
#61 Spirit in the sky
That's a relatively low impact on the Austrian charts, but Austria missed the finals. Mahmood's chart entry is quite remarkable.
In 2017, when Austria reached the finals, the highest chart entry was at #14 City lights
In 2018 it was
#1 Nobody but you
#9 Lie to me
#15 Toy
#23 You let me walk alone
#35 Fuego
#49 Higher ground
#12
Soldi#22
Arcade#26
She got me#61
Spirit in the skyThat's a relatively low impact on the Austrian charts, but Austria missed the finals. Mahmood's chart entry is quite remarkable.
In 2017, when Austria reached the finals, the highest chart entry was at #14
City lightsIn 2018 it was
#1
Nobody but you#9
Lie to me#15
Toy#23
You let me walk alone#35
Fuego#49
Higher ground
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JUSTICE FOR ELHAIDA AND MICHAL AND MIKIPoor Michal, Monika and especially Elhaida
EAT THE JURIES
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I hardly think it made any difference, the points given in the semi from the jury to KEIINO were not much and there it was no technical issue
I remember back in 2014 when one of Sannas lightlamps malfunctioned, we applied to redo but EBU declined.
After seeing the rehearsal, I´m not surprised at all that
won the juryvote, Tamara did a really good performanceBTW, I remember people said that
had technical issues in the jury final, I thought their performance was good.
Now that it's been three weeks to the day since Eurovision 2019 kicked off, I thought it would be nice to re-watch the entire shows as if it happened now. I haven't binge-watched any video, so it'll be pretty interesting for me to write down my "second first impressions", if that makes sense. And I missed all the postcards, so there is a lot to catch up on! I'm ready to get in the Eurovision mood again 
My schedule is set:
Semi 1 (4th July)
Semi 2 (6th July)
Grand final (8th July)
I feel like I haven't commented on the performances enough this year, so I'll probably post more of my thoughts about each acts (and maybe interval acts and overall shows as well) once each show comes to an end.
My schedule is set:
Semi 1 (4th July)
Semi 2 (6th July)
Grand final (8th July)
I feel like I haven't commented on the performances enough this year, so I'll probably post more of my thoughts about each acts (and maybe interval acts and overall shows as well) once each show comes to an end.
Ok, it's me again I'm back after watching the first semi again. That was a lot of fun!
Well, first of all KAN did that for the opening of the semi: I found Netta's performance truly outstanding, from the visuals (the big lucky cat, the dancers, the holograms) to Netta's energy (duh) to the great "Toy" remix. Honestly, this remix gives me life, it's miles better and catchier than the original version to me. And the crowd was so here for it that it's in my opinion one of the best Eurovision openings I've ever seen. Am amazed.
1. Cyprus: I admit I didn't care for this song on first listen, but now it's growing on me. I do like it, however the live performance paled in comparison with the studio cut imo: Tamta isn't the best vocalist (to put it diplomatically), also she was very stiff and seemed borderline stoned at times.
As a result, she gave a low-energy performance that didn't do justice to the song. On the visual level, Jean Baptiste did an okay job, it's neither terrible nor particularly great. I like that it wasn't colourful, the "hands choreo" reminded me of Artsvik of course, and thankfully there were dancers to bring some energy on stage. The replay effect (both vocally and visually) was quite underwhelming, I'm not sure if it was meant to look that way, but the effect seen during the stand-in rehearsal was much more effective and cool imo. Finally, I found Tamta's outfit literally horrendous, it wasn't sexy or flattering, but totally sexual in a tasteless way. Don't mean to be rude, but she looked like she was working the streets before getting on stage, whose idea was it? She was so fresh in her postcard! No wonder she was the runner-up for the Barbara Dex Award. Although, it could have been better performed, the overall package was okay.
2. Montenegro: Where to start?... Nothing worked here from the first seconds to the last ones: the outfits made of pieces of curtains (?) were off-topic and needed to go, their whole "choreography" was just a succession of cringe-worthy moments and, although all of them could vocally hit their notes, their voices weren't blending well and I found their singing styles quite old-fashioned tbh. I don't know if D-Mol are an actual group or if they gathered especially for Eurovision, but it seems to be the latter to me since everyone was doing their own thing regardless of the overall look and sound of the group. Needless to say there was no staging, and the song wasn't right up my alley at all either: it sounded bland, amateurish and old-fashioned in a bad way at the same time (sorry DaFlo!
don't shoot me!). Montenegro were robbed several times in the past to me, but not this year.
3. Finland: Great postcard! I didn't know who Darude was (and still don't) and I'm not sure I'd like to know after this performance. The song itself would have been hot in Eurovision 2007, it's hella repetitive and nothing more than background music imo. Sebastian can't sing or perform to save his life: his vocal, his "lookooway" pronunciation and his face are more distracting than anything else. I mean no one cares in the comfort of a studio where voices are corrected and distorted ad nauseam with radio airplay as the only goal, but DJs who consider taking part in the contest really should work with capable vocalists, I'm just saying. On a positive note, I found the staging visually expensive and striking, the shots of the female dancer dancing in her green dress in front of blue icebergs was a delight to watch. Too bad the music wasn't quite up there too. Overall a very weak effort from Finland, it wasn't the worst song of the competition to me, but I'm glad it came last as I wanted Yle to have a wake-up call (which happened since the NF will come back next year).
4. Poland: I love that postcard too! On first listen, I didn't know what to think about the Polish entry, which sounds like a unique blend of traditional folk voices and pop-rock elements. It definitely IS an acquired taste, but the more I listen to it, the more I like it. I like that it was sung in Polish (for the most part) and that the music was rather moody and sassy. It was refreshingly different from all the other songs this year. The live performance was great imo, Tulia performed really well and their outfits were attention-grabbing. Visually it was more than decent considering Poles aren't exactly known for being the masters of staging. The clapping part with the audience was also a moment. Honestly, I'm sad this didn't advance: it was interesting, different and challenging. Good job nonetheless Polska!
5. Slovenia: Zala & Gasper dancing in fields is a whole mood!
Seriously, I don't know what I can add to what I said about them already in their thread. Firstly, I love the song: it was atmospheric, melodious, contemporary and musically new for Eurovision. While the composition is devoid of troughs and valleys, it's all about the vibe, so I totally get why it could be either considered mesmerising or boring. I'm proud that they managed to up their game based on what they did in EMA: the space-like backdrops and light show were on point. Zala was vocally there and their chemistry did the job. Very effective camera angles too. To me, it is their canonical performance. They took me into their bubble, it was a moment. Strong effort from Slovenia, they're getting better at staging their entries. Deserved qualification!
6. Czech Republic: OMG The postcards look so good I can't! Okay, you may (or may not) know that when Lake Malawi was selected, I wasn't about that life. When assessing where it started back then and looking at the final product, I think the Czechs did a good job at doing everything they could to succeed. The first smart move was to lower the pitch of the song, therefore Albert managed to sing it perfectly. The song isn't me, it's too repetitive, musically annoying and douchebaggy for me, the most eye-rolling element being the lyrics... I mean who would ever think of writing such things, this is so cringe-worthy! Oddly enough, the lowered pitch made it a tad more listenable to me, even though the annoyance rate remains too damn high in my book. Visually, I like the colour scheme but I feel like they tried to make a Mikolas 2.0 happen: the thing is the presentation was simpler and emptier, and Albert had no stage presence imo, apart from his real-pain face. Not gonna lie, some parts of the performance were borderline boring to me and ultimately I think it's a song that works better in a spotify playlist than as piece of music that comes alive live. Overall decent. But the song is a no to me.
7. Hungary: Joci didn't dance in the postcard, he cheated! My opinion about the Hungarian effort this year differs from the predominant one. As a fan of "Origo", I wasn't here for Joci's return for fear of being disappointed, yet the contrary happened: I like "Az én apám" as much as his 2017 entry. Vocally, Joci always delivered - I prefer the live performance to the studio cut - and his tone is so gripping, it's got so much character. Visually, he served eye candy to the max; I liked his outfit, simple but effective and classy, I would wear that myself even if my body doesn't look like his at all. The staging - aka the backdrops - were magnificent imo, I loved the golden/black colour scheme and the whole presentation through symbols. The face of his father might have looked a bit out of place in this magical extravaganza, but personally it didn't bother me. However, I could have lived without the sparkling shower, which is the most useless and anti-climactic stage element ever to me. I don't know why people didn't support this effort, this was really strong in my book. Too bad. Personally, it might even become my favourite Hungarian entry over time. Hungary, you slayed me again!
8. Belarus: or how to cancel Tamta in three minutes with energy, attitude and suppleness!
First of all, the song is a banger, I don't understand why it was predicted not to qualify. It's by far one of my favourite upbeat songs this year. When the time has come to put on a show and give everything on stage, Zena is that chick. It's all about her and her attitude and sassiness, which made the performance so fun. Vocally, let's be honest, she's not a vocalist: she did well during the verses but the choruses and high notes were not her forte, thank the Lord the backing vocalists were strong. Visually, I liked everything: from her urban outfit to the color scheme to the props. The dancers and the choreography were fun, and the psychedelic Salvador Dali-esque backdrops completed the look. Apparently, Zena's qualification was due to mistakes from several jurors, but that's sad, because I was glad to have this act in the grand final. Are you gonna like? Yes girl!
9. Serbia: For the second time in a row, I didn't think much of the Serbian entry on first listen, until it ended up growing on me and entered my personal top ten. What I like about "Kruna" is that it's not the full-blown Balkan ballad with traditional elements and whatnot (that we've seen a lot from Serbia before), actually it sounds more driven by pop-rock elements, which is refreshing. The melody is a bit understated at first, but it's beautiful, and Nevena can sing. I feel like they avoided all the clichés associated with Balkan ballads because from the fashion choices (the dress and pieces of jewellery) to the backdrops (with the swirls and shattered glass), it looked a lot more cold, edgy and "aggressive" compared with how this type of songs are usually staged. I liked it a lot. Deserved qualification in my book.
'Tis all for the first half, I'll post my comments on the second half tomorrow.
If I had to rank these acts, this is how I'd do it:
1. Slovenia
2. Serbia
3. Hungary
4. Belarus
5. Poland
6. Cyprus
7. Czech Republic
8. Finland :?
9. Montenegro :?
I'm back after watching the first semi again. That was a lot of fun!Well, first of all KAN did that for the opening of the semi: I found Netta's performance truly outstanding, from the visuals (the big lucky cat, the dancers, the holograms) to Netta's energy (duh) to the great "Toy" remix. Honestly, this remix gives me life, it's miles better and catchier than the original version to me. And the crowd was so here for it that it's in my opinion one of the best Eurovision openings I've ever seen. Am amazed.
1. Cyprus: I admit I didn't care for this song on first listen, but now it's growing on me. I do like it, however the live performance paled in comparison with the studio cut imo: Tamta isn't the best vocalist (to put it diplomatically), also she was very stiff and seemed borderline stoned at times.
As a result, she gave a low-energy performance that didn't do justice to the song. On the visual level, Jean Baptiste did an okay job, it's neither terrible nor particularly great. I like that it wasn't colourful, the "hands choreo" reminded me of Artsvik of course, and thankfully there were dancers to bring some energy on stage. The replay effect (both vocally and visually) was quite underwhelming, I'm not sure if it was meant to look that way, but the effect seen during the stand-in rehearsal was much more effective and cool imo. Finally, I found Tamta's outfit literally horrendous, it wasn't sexy or flattering, but totally sexual in a tasteless way. Don't mean to be rude, but she looked like she was working the streets before getting on stage, whose idea was it? She was so fresh in her postcard! No wonder she was the runner-up for the Barbara Dex Award. Although, it could have been better performed, the overall package was okay.2. Montenegro: Where to start?... Nothing worked here from the first seconds to the last ones: the outfits made of pieces of curtains (?) were off-topic and needed to go, their whole "choreography" was just a succession of cringe-worthy moments and, although all of them could vocally hit their notes, their voices weren't blending well and I found their singing styles quite old-fashioned tbh. I don't know if D-Mol are an actual group or if they gathered especially for Eurovision, but it seems to be the latter to me since everyone was doing their own thing regardless of the overall look and sound of the group. Needless to say there was no staging, and the song wasn't right up my alley at all either: it sounded bland, amateurish and old-fashioned in a bad way at the same time (sorry DaFlo!
don't shoot me!). Montenegro were robbed several times in the past to me, but not this year.3. Finland: Great postcard! I didn't know who Darude was (and still don't) and I'm not sure I'd like to know after this performance. The song itself would have been hot in Eurovision 2007, it's hella repetitive and nothing more than background music imo. Sebastian can't sing or perform to save his life: his vocal, his "lookooway" pronunciation and his face are more distracting than anything else. I mean no one cares in the comfort of a studio where voices are corrected and distorted ad nauseam with radio airplay as the only goal, but DJs who consider taking part in the contest really should work with capable vocalists, I'm just saying. On a positive note, I found the staging visually expensive and striking, the shots of the female dancer dancing in her green dress in front of blue icebergs was a delight to watch. Too bad the music wasn't quite up there too. Overall a very weak effort from Finland, it wasn't the worst song of the competition to me, but I'm glad it came last as I wanted Yle to have a wake-up call (which happened since the NF will come back next year).
4. Poland: I love that postcard too! On first listen, I didn't know what to think about the Polish entry, which sounds like a unique blend of traditional folk voices and pop-rock elements. It definitely IS an acquired taste, but the more I listen to it, the more I like it. I like that it was sung in Polish (for the most part) and that the music was rather moody and sassy. It was refreshingly different from all the other songs this year. The live performance was great imo, Tulia performed really well and their outfits were attention-grabbing. Visually it was more than decent considering Poles aren't exactly known for being the masters of staging. The clapping part with the audience was also a moment. Honestly, I'm sad this didn't advance: it was interesting, different and challenging. Good job nonetheless Polska!
5. Slovenia: Zala & Gasper dancing in fields is a whole mood!
Seriously, I don't know what I can add to what I said about them already in their thread. Firstly, I love the song: it was atmospheric, melodious, contemporary and musically new for Eurovision. While the composition is devoid of troughs and valleys, it's all about the vibe, so I totally get why it could be either considered mesmerising or boring. I'm proud that they managed to up their game based on what they did in EMA: the space-like backdrops and light show were on point. Zala was vocally there and their chemistry did the job. Very effective camera angles too. To me, it is their canonical performance. They took me into their bubble, it was a moment. Strong effort from Slovenia, they're getting better at staging their entries. Deserved qualification!6. Czech Republic: OMG The postcards look so good I can't! Okay, you may (or may not) know that when Lake Malawi was selected, I wasn't about that life. When assessing where it started back then and looking at the final product, I think the Czechs did a good job at doing everything they could to succeed. The first smart move was to lower the pitch of the song, therefore Albert managed to sing it perfectly. The song isn't me, it's too repetitive, musically annoying and douchebaggy for me, the most eye-rolling element being the lyrics... I mean who would ever think of writing such things, this is so cringe-worthy! Oddly enough, the lowered pitch made it a tad more listenable to me, even though the annoyance rate remains too damn high in my book. Visually, I like the colour scheme but I feel like they tried to make a Mikolas 2.0 happen: the thing is the presentation was simpler and emptier, and Albert had no stage presence imo, apart from his real-pain face. Not gonna lie, some parts of the performance were borderline boring to me and ultimately I think it's a song that works better in a spotify playlist than as piece of music that comes alive live. Overall decent. But the song is a no to me.
7. Hungary: Joci didn't dance in the postcard, he cheated!
My opinion about the Hungarian effort this year differs from the predominant one. As a fan of "Origo", I wasn't here for Joci's return for fear of being disappointed, yet the contrary happened: I like "Az én apám" as much as his 2017 entry. Vocally, Joci always delivered - I prefer the live performance to the studio cut - and his tone is so gripping, it's got so much character. Visually, he served eye candy to the max; I liked his outfit, simple but effective and classy, I would wear that myself even if my body doesn't look like his at all. The staging - aka the backdrops - were magnificent imo, I loved the golden/black colour scheme and the whole presentation through symbols. The face of his father might have looked a bit out of place in this magical extravaganza, but personally it didn't bother me. However, I could have lived without the sparkling shower, which is the most useless and anti-climactic stage element ever to me. I don't know why people didn't support this effort, this was really strong in my book. Too bad. Personally, it might even become my favourite Hungarian entry over time. Hungary, you slayed me again! 8. Belarus: or how to cancel Tamta in three minutes with energy, attitude and suppleness!
First of all, the song is a banger, I don't understand why it was predicted not to qualify. It's by far one of my favourite upbeat songs this year. When the time has come to put on a show and give everything on stage, Zena is that chick. It's all about her and her attitude and sassiness, which made the performance so fun. Vocally, let's be honest, she's not a vocalist: she did well during the verses but the choruses and high notes were not her forte, thank the Lord the backing vocalists were strong. Visually, I liked everything: from her urban outfit to the color scheme to the props. The dancers and the choreography were fun, and the psychedelic Salvador Dali-esque backdrops completed the look. Apparently, Zena's qualification was due to mistakes from several jurors, but that's sad, because I was glad to have this act in the grand final. Are you gonna like? Yes girl!9. Serbia: For the second time in a row, I didn't think much of the Serbian entry on first listen, until it ended up growing on me and entered my personal top ten. What I like about "Kruna" is that it's not the full-blown Balkan ballad with traditional elements and whatnot (that we've seen a lot from Serbia before), actually it sounds more driven by pop-rock elements, which is refreshing. The melody is a bit understated at first, but it's beautiful, and Nevena can sing. I feel like they avoided all the clichés associated with Balkan ballads because from the fashion choices (the dress and pieces of jewellery) to the backdrops (with the swirls and shattered glass), it looked a lot more cold, edgy and "aggressive" compared with how this type of songs are usually staged. I liked it a lot. Deserved qualification in my book.
'Tis all for the first half, I'll post my comments on the second half tomorrow.
If I had to rank these acts, this is how I'd do it:
1. Slovenia
2. Serbia
3. Hungary
4. Belarus
5. Poland
6. Cyprus
7. Czech Republic
8. Finland :?
9. Montenegro :?
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*sighs*
Yeah Zena probably overshadowed Tamta. No seriously, «Replay» gives you fire and heat and summer but the staging was so cold and calculated which ruined her chances. «Replay» is such a summer bop
Wasted opportunity by Cyprus although 13th place in the final is okay nothing more
Yeah Zena probably overshadowed Tamta. No seriously, «Replay» gives you fire and heat and summer but the staging was so cold and calculated which ruined her chances. «Replay» is such a summer bop
Wasted opportunity by Cyprus although 13th place in the final is okay nothing more
