Dark horse & Flop of the Year
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Dark horses
Lithuania will qualify, its diaspora will help it along.
Russia will probably divide europe, one group wont vote for it because of the going ons lately, but Russians in foreign countries will voting stronger than ever to show support for Russia.
Flops
This has the most overrated song this year. This will not enter the top 10 I will bet on it.
This third in the odds? really? Thats only for its position this will also not trouble the top spots at all.
I think Azerbaijan will for the second time flop outside of the top 5, purely for the scandal around, new rules on cheating so they probably cheat less this year 
I have a feeling that Spain will flop to the right side of the board, not like 2013 but 18/19 maybe?
Lithuania will qualify, its diaspora will help it along. Russia will probably divide europe, one group wont vote for it because of the going ons lately, but Russians in foreign countries will voting stronger than ever to show support for Russia. Flops
This has the most overrated song this year. This will not enter the top 10 I will bet on it. This third in the odds? really? Thats only for its position this will also not trouble the top spots at all. I think Azerbaijan will for the second time flop outside of the top 5, purely for the scandal around, new rules on cheating so they probably cheat less this year I have a feeling that Spain will flop to the right side of the board, not like 2013 but 18/19 maybe?
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Dark horse:
Flop of the year:
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Flop of the year:
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: The song do bad in many rankings (and in our game) but I think that in the end the televoting will save Russia
:I don't know it Belarus can broke the 2 years out one in but I think that this will qualify at least
: Cause all the Eurofans actually like this but they are shamed to say it
: They will be in the top 10 of the Final with the televoting help
: If they have this epic dress and Cristina be good vocaly I can see this in the top20
: It's the only entry that I've got the strong feeling that it will do really really really well. This beautiful country without allies and blocks will make Europe vote massive for their awesome song and it will won the 2nd semi and why not and the whole thing
Flop of the year:
: To overrated.I see this fall more and more in the bets and in the tops. I know that only an idiot would said that but I prefer the old "good" (IMO it was)
: I like this a lot and at first it was the fave to win but after the live performance in flops in the bets and in the tops.
: Probably the most overrated song this year... the Miracle won't happen
: Although it's happy and catchy I think that it comes 3rd only cause it's running order. It maybe be in the top 10 but no for the win....
: The song do bad in many rankings (and in our game) but I think that in the end the televoting will save Russia:I don't know it Belarus can broke the 2 years out one in but I think that this will qualify at least: Cause all the Eurofans actually like this but they are shamed to say it: They will be in the top 10 of the Final with the televoting help: If they have this epic dress and Cristina be good vocaly I can see this in the top20: It's the only entry that I've got the strong feeling that it will do really really really well. This beautiful country without allies and blocks will make Europe vote massive for their awesome song and it will won the 2nd semi and why not and the whole thingFlop of the year:
: To overrated.I see this fall more and more in the bets and in the tops. I know that only an idiot would said that but I prefer the old "good" (IMO it was) : I like this a lot and at first it was the fave to win but after the live performance in flops in the bets and in the tops.: Probably the most overrated song this year... the Miracle won't happen: Although it's happy and catchy I think that it comes 3rd only cause it's running order. It maybe be in the top 10 but no for the win....
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Switzerland will sneak through to the final and get a top 10 like Gianluca did last year with a similar song (happy, playful, fun) if he gets his live in check. It has the Rybak-esque playfulness, but lacks the oomph and try-too-hard which later gave Alexander the victory. But there's often a happy, playful surprise song to reach top 10 (or just outside of it) that no one really saw coming (Malta 2013, Moldova 2012 at 11th place). Plus, Sebalter is a total charmer.
The Netherlands could be the Kedvesem of the year? Quite overlooked by eurofans, but the general audience will like the calm nature of the song and vote for it. Maybe not top 10 but top 15? They perform nicely and I can see a televoting appeal, especially, if it should qualify, placed between more uptempo songs, it can be that nice, calm touch. Nobody believed in Kedvesem too much either, but it just did it.
Flops of the year:
Sweden is massively overrated every year by eurofans (see for example 2008) and the years they actually did well recently (see 2011, 2012) the songs are chart stuff, modern, and in case of 2011, will put all teenager girls' panties in a twist. Undo will qualify of course, but will miss out of the top 5 and maybe even the top ten everyone and their moms expects it to get. I like the song, I just don't see a massive support for it. It's gonna either totally bomb, like Hungary 2011, or then get a mid table result a la Stjernberg.
Belgium is in direct competition with another bigger boned man singing a ballad, that's Norway. These two will swallow each other whole, but in the end Norway will get out of it alive (possibly top 10) because the song is more sincere, while poor Axel will be left out of the top 10, possibly even the top 15. Bonus points on the voice, which juries will like, but a lot of people (except moms) picking up the phone to vote for an opera-esque entry while there are plenty of uptempos and more approachable ballads to choose from? I just can't imagine it happening.
Switzerland will sneak through to the final and get a top 10 like Gianluca did last year with a similar song (happy, playful, fun) if he gets his live in check. It has the Rybak-esque playfulness, but lacks the oomph and try-too-hard which later gave Alexander the victory. But there's often a happy, playful surprise song to reach top 10 (or just outside of it) that no one really saw coming (Malta 2013, Moldova 2012 at 11th place). Plus, Sebalter is a total charmer.
The Netherlands could be the Kedvesem of the year? Quite overlooked by eurofans, but the general audience will like the calm nature of the song and vote for it. Maybe not top 10 but top 15? They perform nicely and I can see a televoting appeal, especially, if it should qualify, placed between more uptempo songs, it can be that nice, calm touch. Nobody believed in Kedvesem too much either, but it just did it.
Flops of the year:
Sweden is massively overrated every year by eurofans (see for example 2008) and the years they actually did well recently (see 2011, 2012) the songs are chart stuff, modern, and in case of 2011, will put all teenager girls' panties in a twist. Undo will qualify of course, but will miss out of the top 5 and maybe even the top ten everyone and their moms expects it to get. I like the song, I just don't see a massive support for it. It's gonna either totally bomb, like Hungary 2011, or then get a mid table result a la Stjernberg.
Belgium is in direct competition with another bigger boned man singing a ballad, that's Norway. These two will swallow each other whole, but in the end Norway will get out of it alive (possibly top 10) because the song is more sincere, while poor Axel will be left out of the top 10, possibly even the top 15. Bonus points on the voice, which juries will like, but a lot of people (except moms) picking up the phone to vote for an opera-esque entry while there are plenty of uptempos and more approachable ballads to choose from? I just can't imagine it happening.
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Dark horse:
Flops:
GOSH I agree with the first three flops you suggested..
But Armenia!?! NO! And why politics? :?
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GOSH I agree with the first three flops you suggested..
And why politics? :?
I really hope they don't flop, but I think they might not win (this is a flop for heavy favourite), because I think it might lose some votes because of being Russia's ally (politics) and that booing (scandals). And they can't count on Azerbaijan's points which could mean alot if the results will be like in 2003.
except Linda Martin, Carola, Dima Bilan, Dino Merlin, Zeljko Joksimovic
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Dark horses:
(I believe they will do better then most of the fans think)
(I really don't get the hate towards this entry)
Flops:
(I like it but it gets annoying very fast & its over hyped ... so was Bonnie Tyler & that old guy from 2012)
(Good song but I just don't get winner-vibes from it ... "Not alone" is different and very unusual that could be good but also bad)
(same as Armenia)
(I believe they will do better then most of the fans think) (I really don't get the hate towards this entry)Flops:
(I like it but it gets annoying very fast & its over hyped ... so was Bonnie Tyler & that old guy from 2012) (Good song but I just don't get winner-vibes from it ... "Not alone" is different and very unusual that could be good but also bad) (same as Armenia)Overrating Sweden is a Eurovision phenomenon
I think there wasn't a single year in the 2000's, when Sweden was not a favourite.
But when did they really well? In 2003, 2006, 2011 and 2012.
All the other years, they failed. Remember Afro-dite? The Ark? Charlotte Perelli? They were all supposed to win but crashed hard. Even Robin Stjaernberg was predicted Top 5/Top 10 and crashed. Even in 2011, when Sweden finished 3rd, they were expected to win (obviously they got cannibalized by too many up-tempo entries and the song itself was slightly sniffy)
Bookmakers and eurofans, get over it, Sweden is not a natural born winner. Especially not with such a mediocre song.
I watched the Melodifestivalen finale this year and wondered how much effort Sweden puts in selecting mediocre songs. There was nothing special about that national final. Maybe people around Europe are too impressed by Melodifestivalen itself, which is a bloated.
I think there wasn't a single year in the 2000's, when Sweden was not a favourite.
But when did they really well? In 2003, 2006, 2011 and 2012.
All the other years, they failed. Remember Afro-dite? The Ark? Charlotte Perelli? They were all supposed to win but crashed hard. Even Robin Stjaernberg was predicted Top 5/Top 10 and crashed. Even in 2011, when Sweden finished 3rd, they were expected to win (obviously they got cannibalized by too many up-tempo entries and the song itself was slightly sniffy)
Bookmakers and eurofans, get over it, Sweden is not a natural born winner. Especially not with such a mediocre song.
I watched the Melodifestivalen finale this year and wondered how much effort Sweden puts in selecting mediocre songs. There was nothing special about that national final. Maybe people around Europe are too impressed by Melodifestivalen itself, which is a bloated.