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Ask and thou shall be givenThe EBU should even think about to suspend the belarussion membership until there is political change.
Dropping truth bombs right here. If the EBU would follow through with this they would technically have to ban and as well. Maybe even tbh. Turkey and Hungary probably knew that it would have happened to them as well sooner or later so they said goodbye first.
Not saying they should btw before people start coming at me haha. Just trying to point out the hypocrisy.
Russia and Azerbaijan yes, Poland not. EBU can't and shouldn't act as some sort of "moral police" and ban countries left to right just because of ideological disagreements, we need to look at each case separately and in the case of Belarus it's clear that all red lines have been passed by a far stretch. As much as EBU can remain apolitical, they should, otherwise we'll end up with a group of people ambiguously judging countries and I think that's a wrong path as well.
If Poland is banned, then Sweden ought to be banned as well, at least Poland has big oppositional media which I can't say about our country. There are many countries taking part with questionable levels of democracy, freedom of speech and expression, but we can't ban half of Europe
Turkey is improsing journalists and political opponents en masse just like Belarus and Russia, while Poland and Hungary don't. I think to even group these together is incorrect.
So just to clarify, EBU is suspending BTRC's membership with the EBU is due to the broadcaster not acting in accordance to EBU's core values right considering BRTC is a state and national broadcaster, which is controlled by the government.
So can I say that EBU is actually only concerned on what the member broadcaster has done as opposed to what the country's government has done?
True yes. I probably should have phrased my initial statement better. Didn’t mean to imply that actual dictatorships are equal to governments who well … have made some questionable decisions regarding human rights and freedom of speech in recent years.Russia and Azerbaijan yes, Poland not. EBU can't and shouldn't act as some sort of "moral police" and ban countries left to right just because of ideological disagreements, we need to look at each case separately and in the case of Belarus it's clear that all red lines have been passed by a far stretch. As much as EBU can remain apolitical, they should, otherwise we'll end up with a group of people ambiguously judging countries and I think that's a wrong path as well.
If Poland is banned, then Sweden ought to be banned as well, at least Poland has big oppositional media which I can't say about our country. There are many countries taking part with questionable levels of democracy, freedom of speech and expression, but we can't ban half of Europe
Turkey is improsing journalists and political opponents en masse just like Belarus and Russia, while Poland and Hungary don't. I think to even group these together is incorrect.
True yes. I probably should have phrased my initial statement better. Didn’t mean to imply that actual dictatorships are equal to governments who well … have made some questionable decisions regarding human rights and freedom of speech in recent years.
I think that is a fair assessment. The EBU is trying to be a non-political organization (I know that's subjective etc.) but the intent is to stay out of the governments business. Belarus' situation is quite unique in terms of what they're trying to pull. I know that everything is reviewed on a case-by-case basis by the EBU, but in this case I happen to agree with it. In terms of Turkey or Russia's situation, we would have to look at the broadcaster's behavior, not the governments.
I'm just mentally preparing myself to update the thread to "not taking part"
So just to clarify, EBU is suspending BTRC's membership with the EBU is due to the broadcaster not acting in accordance to EBU's core values right considering BRTC is a state and national broadcaster, which is controlled by the government.
So can I say that EBU is actually only concerned on what the member broadcaster has done as opposed to what the country's government has done?
The perfect way out (if they can't overthrow the batshit crazy dictator) is when a group of journalists moves to Ukraine, Poland or Baltic states, creates the new Belarusian broadacster (I know Belarusians from abroad who can sponsor it) and the EBU invites them to join.
How likely is that to happen??
Hmm, the awkwardness with an alternative broadcaster is that if Belarus were to then win, unless the alternate broadcaster already had an Australian-style deal in place, the EBU Reference Group might have to ask some very uncomfortable questions about the hosting arrangements.