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Ukraine UKRAINE 2023 - Tvorchi - Heart of Steel

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    18 10.5%
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    13 7.6%
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I expected this to happen, Ukraine has a tendency to send the wrong winner after winning. First mistake of the season. Well there goes Ukraine's chance to be in my personal top 4th year in a row (including 2020).

Sad results, the people in here who wanted no national identity got what they asked for. Big meh!
 

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It's a solid entry for sure, but Tvorchi, for me, has consistently been almost but not quite there. Out of the songs I've listened too, there's always something I really like, but they always have something missing that don't really take them over the top.
 

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Didn't we have like 3 black acts in Vidbir in 2020? And televoters gave 12pts to a black dude this time.

Yeah I didn't talk about that, just talking about them casual racist ESC viewers who'll be like : "a black dude can't represent Ukraine in ESC" there are people like that every year
 

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I expected this to happen, Ukraine has a tendency to send the wrong winner after winning. First mistake of the season. Well there goes Ukraine's chance to be in my personal top 4th year in a row (including 2020).

Sad results, the people in here who wanted no national identity got what they asked for. Big meh!

PLEASE.. don´t mention 2020 - I need a quality ESC next year!

But yeah, I´m with you on this one - :ua: has been part of my personal Top 3 in 2020, 2021 and 2022... TVORCHI will probably not be part of my Top 10 but if they come up with a great revamp, I might be upgrading it (and it will be settling mid-table)
 
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Wait, I can't get over this peacefully, I'm not that much of a character. 🤣

WTH was this and this song?

The song is so Dr. Dre 1992 - 1997 production, only done in a small amateur local studio. It's so outdated, bland and senseless. 😏

I think the Boomers watched this year's Vidbir and voted. 🤣🤣🤣

Let me remind myself of some real master class from those past days (century even 🤣)



I'm better now, going out to celebrate with crazy Croats, ef this. 🤣

XOXO to Ukrainian friends and NAFO fellas.
 

lasse braun

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Didn't we have like 3 black acts in Vidbir in 2020? And televoters gave 12pts to a black dude this time.
little manipulation?
can't believe that the older (conservative) people call for this kind of music or was it this time a teenage televoting?
 

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I think Tvorchi is a good option for Ukraine this year for a number of reasons. Song-wise maybe not as strong, but do we need to win again? Jerry Heil would be epic probably, but I didn't feel her performance as much as I expected today. Also better to choose such 'safe' act as Tvorchi in a year when we qualify automatically than when we are in semifinals.
 

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little manipulation?
can't believe that the older (conservative) people call for this kind of music or was it this time a teenage televoting?
Don't know what you are trying to question - people simply vote for music they like, they don't care about person's skin color.

Just saw this on Twitter and it made me laugh. :lol:

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Wow this is very peaceful response for Twitter
 

lasse braun

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Don't know what you are trying to question - people simply vote for music they like, they don't care about person's skin color.
i've nothing written about skin color i 've written something about the musicstyle of the winnersong - ok?
 

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I must admit that this is not an entry I'd expect from Ukraine. I love the opening, although I don't think the song goes anywhere :(
 

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i've nothing written about skin color i 've written something about the musicstyle of the winnersong - ok?
Every year there's male act who's got crazy teens fanbase (aka Melovin, O. Torvald, most of recent Swedish ESC acts) etc

I think Tvorchi is in the same boat
 
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