Results with : 25% power to the juries / 75% to the televote.

[popavapeur]

I took some time to see what would have been the results if we gave 25% power to the juries and 75% to the televote. The recents results made some of us question the power given to around 200 people compared to the millions televoters. One of the first ideas is to increase the numbers of juries, another is to give more power to televoters.

So I took the actual jury points and I just did multiply the televote results by 3 to see what would have changed. I don't know if it's the right/correct way to do it (I should have reduced somewhere to have a right amount of points but ain't no NASA physician here) the goal is just to see the ranking not the points itself.

Here is the ranking itself, first is the total, then the jury point and in bold it's the "new" televote (I did the Semifinal too in spoiler at the end)

= 1. 1014 points (231 + 783 (261x3))
= 2. 971 points (212 + 759 (253x3))
+2 3. 920 points (47 + 873 (291x3))
-1 4. 857 points (125 + 732 (244x3))
-1 5. 784 points (148 + 636 (212x3))
+4 6. 606 points (48 + 558 (186x3))
+2 7. 547 points (154 + 393 (131x3))
-2 8. 518 points (239 + 279 (93x3))
-2 9. 497 points (197 + 300 (100x3))
-2 10. 411 points (237 + 174 (58x3))
+2 11. 223 points (46 + 177 (59x3))
= 12. 222 points (69 + 153 (51x3))
+7 13. 211 points (16 + 195 (65x3))
+3 14. 200 points (38 + 162 (54x3))
+3 15. 184 points (43 + 141 (47x3))
+3 16. 182 points (38 + 144 (48x3)
-3 17. 181 points (67 + 114 (38x3))
-7 18. 171 points (150 + 21 (7x3))
+3 19. 166 points (7 + 159 (53x3))
-5 20. 165 points (69 + 96 (32x3))
-5 21. 135 points (75 + 60 (20x3))
-1 22. 119 points (47 + 72 (24x3))
= 23. 117 points (12 + 105 (35x3))
+1 24. 57 points (18 + 39 (13x3))
-1 25. 32 points (32 + 0 (0x3))
= 26. 22 points(13 + 9 (3x3))

SF1 :

= 1. 541 points (121 + 420 (140x3))
+1 2. 523 points (70 + 453 (151x3))
+1 3. 464 (65 + 399 (133x3))
-2 4. 412 points (157 + 255 (85x3))
+3 5. 398 points (26 + 372 (124x3))
= 6. 353 points (74 + 279 (93x3))
-2 7. 293 points (131 + 162 54x3))
-1 8. 286 points (91 + 195 (65x3))
= 9. 257 points (95 + 162 54x3))
+1 10. 240 points (60 + 180 (60x3))
-1 11. 210 points (78 + 132 (44x3))
= 12. 161 points (65 + 96 (32x3))
+2 13. 137 points (8 + 129 (43x3)
= 14. 128 points (29 + 99 (33x3))
-2 15. 110 points (50 + 60 (20x3))
= 16. 76 points (31 + 45 (15x3))
= 17. 51 points (9 + 42 (14x3))

SF2

= 1. 560 points (140 + 420 (140x3))
+5 2. 550 points (40 + 510 (170x3))
+1 3. 506 points (95 + 411 (137x3))
+1 4. 466 points (103 + 363 (121x3))
+1 5. 465 points (93 + 372 (124x3)
-3 6. 414 points (150 + 264 (88x3))
-5 7. 407 points (155 + 252 (84x3))
= 8. 257 points (107 + 150 (50x3))
+2 9. 247 points (16 + 231 (77x3))
-1 10. 212 points (38 + 174 (58x3))
-1 11. 176 points (53 + 123 (41x3))
+2 12. 140 points (26 + 114 (38x3))
-1 13. 139 points (58 + 81 (27x3))
-1 14. 119 points (47 + 72 (24x3))
+1 15. 95 points (26 + 69 (23x3))
-1 16. 76 points (37 + 39 (13x3))
+1 17. 22 points (13 + 9 (3x3))
-1 18. 21 points (21 + 0 (0x3))

My thoughts :

I think the juries are important in this contest and I want to keep them, having more jurors would be the perfect solution in my opinion. As you see, giving more power to the televoters doesn't change that much the ranking : a lot of countries stayed where they are now or just climb/fell from one place.

But as expected, it rewards more what people like, having Norway in 3rd place is a good compromise when you're the televote winner. You should be high in the ranking.

Giving more power to the televoters seems a good solution as well. You may think that's useless when you look at the ranking I made but at the end it's a TV show and I think it's more important to have more songs people like in the final (Poland + Lithuania) and we, people, are the ones buying the songs at the end and making the music industry and this contest alive. It could end with strange results some years but I honestly think having a winner chosen by the televote more than the juries even if the song is trashier is just better, it makes people happy cause they choose it.

 

[Alaska49]

honestly this looks pretty good and is only one touch from being more presentable to the public (that's too many points) to have my full support.

suggestion: maybe juries should just give out half the points - each country's televote gives out 58 points, so juries could each give out 29 points in some manner of distribution.