Germany GERMANY 2025 - Abor and Tynna - Baller

[ESC United Mod Team]

 

[ESC94]

I agree with you. I haven't heard a song from him that excited me in any way. It is rather sleepy music. But who knows? Suddenly he writes one that makes me change my mind. Such things happen.

Yeah, sometimes people get hit by a lightning as well.

 

[Sammy]

Please no, didn´t like him in 2011 already when he got famous with that stupid song.



Promising?? This kind of music is only made for the German speaking market, too reliant on understanding the lyrics and melodically his songs were always rather boring.

Tbh, I only know „Wenn Worte meine Sprache wären“ and I found that one really touching. Actually I still do. Don’t you think he could convey emotions on stage? Never saw him live though.

But maybe he heard your critique since apparently the song he‘s competing with is called „wach auf“

 

[ESC94]

Tbh, I only know „Wenn Worte meine Sprache wären“ and I found that one really touching. Actually I still do. Don’t you think he could convey emotions on stage? Never saw him live though.

Don´t know, I just don´t think this kind of music is suited for the ESC stage for the reasons stated.

 

[Looren]

Gewinnt Stefan Raab erneut den ESC? Alles über den Vorentscheid und die Kandidaten

Stefan Raab, ARD und RTL suchten in vier Shows von "Chefsache ESC 2025 - Wer singt für Deutschland?" nach dem deutschen Act für den Eurovision Song Contest 2025 in Basel. Barbara Schöneberger moderierte alle Shows.

www.eurovision.de

NDR received 3 281 applications, that's quite a high number I'd say !

 

[Mrm]

Nice, maybe we can hope for smth good!
I didnt like Germany 2024, especially that performance at ESC..

 

[Mainshow]

EES just posted a story on his socials confirming that he got a call from RTL/ARD. He advanced to the "next round".
I guess, he means the live auditions?

 

[Mainshow]

Tim Bendzko would be massive.
He's really talented.
I don't get the "not suited for an international audience". We got Jazz songs in Portuguese, a ballad in Dutch, an English/Crimean song about genocide and so much more.
Sometimes quality entries in foreign languages (apart from French and Italian) perform well.
The televoting has become way more open-minded to other genres and languages over the years.

Of course, he needs a good hook or a melodic arrangement to "make up for" his singing style or "meaningful lyrics" but it's not like authentic German music wouldn't do well in Eurovision.
Actually, we haven't submitted anything authentically German since 2007 (and Roger Cicero was quite niche and different to anything else in Germany at that time... maybe only Max Raabe?!).

Anyway, Tim Bendzko is huge. It means that some well-established artists attempt to compete which is great news... it will probably not be a "newcomers performing English covers for 2 nights in a row" fiasco anymore

Actually, I'm quite hyped that Tim Bendzko and Ees's names come up.
More of such artists, please.

We need to kick off an own Melodifestivalen l-styled competition and less talent shows thingies.

Tha k you.

 

[Mainshow]

Tim Bendzko would be massive.
He's really talented.
I don't get the "not suited for an international audience". We got Jazz songs in Portuguese, a ballad in Dutch, an English/Crimean song about genocide and so much more.
Sometimes quality entries in foreign languages (apart from French and Italian) perform well.
The televoting has become way more open-minded to other genres and languages over the years.

Of course, he needs a good hook or a melodic arrangement to "make up for" his singing style or "meaningful lyrics" but it's not like authentic German music wouldn't do well in Eurovision.
Actually, we haven't submitted anything authentically German since 2007 (and Roger Cicero was quite niche and different to anything else in Germany at that time... maybe only Max Raabe?!).

Anyway, Tim Bendzko is huge. It means that some well-established artists attempt to compete which is great news... it will probably not be a "newcomers performing English covers for 2 nights in a row" fiasco anymore

Actually, I'm quite hyped that Tim Bendzko and Ees's names come up.
More of such artists, please.

We need to kick off an own Melodifestivalen l-styled competition and less talent shows thingies.

 

[ESC94]

Tim Bendzko would be massive.
He's really talented.
I don't get the "not suited for an international audience". We got Jazz songs in Portuguese, a ballad in Dutch, an English/Crimean song about genocide and so much more.
Sometimes quality entries in foreign languages (apart from French and Italian) perform well.
The televoting has become way more open-minded to other genres and languages over the years.

Of course, he needs a good hook or a melodic arrangement to "make up for" his singing style or "meaningful lyrics" but it's not like authentic German music wouldn't do well in Eurovision.
Actually, we haven't submitted anything authentically German since 2007 (and Roger Cicero was quite niche and different to anything else in Germany at that time... maybe only Max Raabe?!).

Anyway, Tim Bendzko is huge. It means that some well-established artists attempt to compete which is great news... it will probably not be a "newcomers performing English covers for 2 nights in a row" fiasco anymore

Actually, I'm quite hyped that Tim Bendzko and Ees's names come up.
More of such artists, please.

We need to kick off an own Melodifestivalen l-styled competition and less talent shows thingies.

Tha k you.

Well, 10 years ago I would´ve agreed with you, now I would rather call him a has been, his last album was also more of a flop.

 

[Mainshow]

Well, 10 years ago I would´ve agreed with you, now I would rather call him a has been, his last album was also more of a flop.

An artists can still be a huge name even if a flop album, e.g. Katy Perry or Shawn Mendes. I wouldn't call them has beens in the US market either even though their latest records flopped big time.

Also, I was referring to popular and/or well-established artists.

We don't have to think of Adeles/Helene Fischer/Rammstein-kind of big.

If we're getting the likes of Tim Bendzko, it would be huge and still a massive upgrade to recent years (even though Lord of the Lost and Eskimo Callboy were an amazing surprise).
I'm glad that such artists are still eager to compete.

I'll never forgive NDR for the shitshows that were 2019 and 2022.

Hopefully, Raab will come up with a mix of different artists (newcomers and "bigger" or well-established names).

Of course, we have to wait for Tim Bendzko's song (I agree with all of you guys) but just the fact that he submitted a song is huge.

There was a time, such artists wouldn't want to compete at all or they didn't announce it that they submitted an entry to our preselection

 

[ESC94]

An artists can still be a huge name even if a flop album, e.g. Katy Perry or Shawn Mendes. I wouldn't call them has beens in the US market either even though their latest records flopped big time.

Also, I was referring to popular and/or well-established artists.

We don't have to think of Adeles/Helene Fischer/Rammstein-kind of big.

If we're getting the likes of Tim Bendzko, it would be huge and still a massive upgrade to recent years (even though Lord of the Lost and Eskimo Callboy were an amazing surprise).
I'm glad that such artists are still eager to compete.

I'll never forgive NDR for the shitshows that were 2019 and 2022.

Hopefully, Raab will come up with a mix of different artists (newcomers and "bigger" or well-established names).

Of course, we have to wait for Tim Bendzko's song (I agree with all of you guys) but just the fact that he submitted a song is huge.

There was a time, such artists wouldn't want to compete at all or they didn't announce it that they submitted an entry to our preselection

That´s your opinion and I respect this, but I see this a bit differently. And maybe he wants to compete because his latest releases weren´t really succesful??

 

[mauve]

An artists can still be a huge name even if a flop album, e.g. Katy Perry or Shawn Mendes. I wouldn't call them has beens in the US market either even though their latest records flopped big time.

Also, I was referring to popular and/or well-established artists.

We don't have to think of Adeles/Helene Fischer/Rammstein-kind of big.

If we're getting the likes of Tim Bendzko, it would be huge and still a massive upgrade to recent years (even though Lord of the Lost and Eskimo Callboy were an amazing surprise).
I'm glad that such artists are still eager to compete.

I'll never forgive NDR for the shitshows that were 2019 and 2022.

Hopefully, Raab will come up with a mix of different artists (newcomers and "bigger" or well-established names).

Of course, we have to wait for Tim Bendzko's song (I agree with all of you guys) but just the fact that he submitted a song is huge.

There was a time, such artists wouldn't want to compete at all or they didn't announce it that they submitted an entry to our preselection

I agree. I mean he has a good voice, so I will wait to hear what he submitted. He might surprise us after all! And I believe that Raab has a few other "bigger" names, I am certain about that.

 

[Looren]

What was the amount of submissions in the precedent years ? I feel like there are quite a lot of submissions this year, maybe Isak's good result started to erase the "Germany will never do well" idea ? Well I hope NDR won't fuck it up, out of so many submissions you gotta have some songs that would bring a potential great result

 

[Mainshow]

Maybe that's the case.
Still, I think it's a good sign for this preselection.

I don't think we will be getting more popular names, though.
+ debuting and peaking at #12 fifteen years into your career is still not that bad (even though the chart run was tragic but again, it was only one album which kinda underperformed or misfired).

But dunno, I don't want to feel so enthusiastic about him since I can't even name more than 3 songs by him. I guess we'll have to wait and see. I just got excited that someone like him seems to take part

 

[mauve]

What was the amount of submissions in the precedent years ? I feel like there are quite a lot of submissions this year, maybe Isak's good result started to erase the "Germany will never do well" idea ? Well I hope NDR won't fuck it up, out of so many submissions you gotta have some songs that would bring a potential great result

All I know is that the last time so many submissions came in was 2010 (someone mentioned this in a German forum on ESC Kompakt).

 

[ESC94]

It´s really strange that the thread about isn´t the longest at the moment. Let´s change that!!

 

[Mainshow]

All I know is that the last time so many submissions came in was 2010 (someone mentioned this in a German forum on ESC Kompakt).

Yeah, I think it's more the "Raab effect" than Isaak's impact.
Actually, the preselection got some positive exposure and media coverage and I think that the fact that two of our biggest and most successful broadcasters work together might be quite appealing to artists, record labels and newcomers alike?

 

[Mainshow]

It´s really strange that the thread about isn´t the longest at the moment. Let´s change that!!

Let's turn it into an iconic mess than our head of Delegation dismisses A-listers like Electric Callboy again xD

 

[ESC94]

Let's turn it into an iconic mess than our head of Delegation dismisses A-listers like Electric Callboy again xD

You don´t think she´ll be "schockverliebt" in Bendzko??

Looking forward to Johannes Oerding next July btw, will be my third concert with him.

 

[I bims]

It's weird that I have no urge to doompost about our chances for 2025. The jury-bait approach worked this year and would be, even without Raab, an okayish approach to slowly get on the right track. But now with over 3k submissions and Raab's statements about looking for entertainment value, there's just a good chance that this could turn out well.

It will turn to shit eventually, it has to. We can't have nice things. The german viewers will pick a bad song, won't they?