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They really try to make Aura Dione happen.
She might be the biggest name in this line-up but her dated song is mediocre at best.
 
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Denmark should choose Aura Dione. There are several elements in that song that makes it stand out (potentially). The other top songs are too neutral. So if SABA is chosen for instance, the only chance at Eurovision is that she'll sing really well, and that the televoters will reward that for some reason. The song in itself doesn't stand out at all - I really hope the current odds will be proven wrong.
 
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Mainshow said:
They really try to make Aura Dione happen.
She might be the biggest name in this line-up but her dated song is mediocre at best.
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"Dated" is a problematic term. All rock songs would be "dated" then. And country songs. And many ballads. Most of the songs at Melfest are "dated". All of Albania's are.

I consider Gothminister's song "dated", but mainly because Germany had something from exactly the same genre last year. I also think "Drowning in the Rain" from Luxembourg is "dated" because it sounds so much like Elsie Bay's two entries at MGP. I could go on.

In fact, I believe most contemporary songs could be considered "dated". (Never thought I should say that, but it's the truth!)

If you want to use the term "dated", it should be compared to something. Such as: This song is "dated" because it sounds too much like the song xxx, or this beat is too typical of the era of xxx.
 
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Am I the only one who loves Stella's song? It gives me that Aurora vibes in a similar way to MIIA's Green Lights in the Norwegian selection. I may be biased as this is totally my type of music though.
 
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jatojo said:
"Dated" is a problematic term. All rock songs would be "dated" then. And country songs. And many ballads. Most of the songs at Melfest are "dated". All of Albania's are.

I consider Gothminister's song "dated", but mainly because Germany had something from exactly the same genre last year. I also think "Drowning in the Rain" from Luxembourg is "dated" because it sounds so much like Elsie Bay's two entries at MGP. I could go on.

In fact, I believe most contemporary songs could be considered "dated". (Never thought I should say that, but it's the truth!)

If you want to use the term "dated", it should be compared to something. Such as: This song is "dated" because it sounds too much like the song xxx, or this beat is too typical of the era of xxx.
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I beg to differ and strongly disagree with you on this one. In my opinion, "Dated" isn't problematic at all since trends in popular music [pop music] change very fast, e.g. the tropical sounds or dubstep influences which highly dominated in the 2010's would totally sound dated nowadays.

Bubblegum and B choruses such as in the late 90's and early 00's would sound out of place as well (or "dated").

Other genres such as rock or metal don't follow trends since they don't try to create hits or create something to appeal to the charts, e.g. apart from increasing the quality of recordings (how they are recorded), Symphonic, Death or Folk metal haven't changed at all.

Same applies to Schlager - Swedish or German ones... the lyrics might have been updated (since they're referring to dating apps as well) but song structure, arrangements are quite the same.

I've made an earlier posts about Auro Dione and how it reminds me of pop music from the mid 00's, though.

That said, a song related this year reminding you of another song which had been released the year before doesn't make the former "dated".
Trends in popular music usually last for a few years (aspects of former trends may come back though... that's why we got all the 80's inspired songs around 2020/2021 or the current 90's sound, samples in EDM).

Kudos to Aura Dione for not competing with a trend-chasing entry, though... but it's neither progressive or timeless either.

I think she would be struggling in May.
 
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Mainshow said:
I beg to differ and strongly disagree with you on this one. In my opinion, "Dated" isn't problematic at all since trends in popular music [pop music] change very fast, e.g. the tropical sounds or dubstep influences which highly dominated in the 2010's would totally sound dated nowadays.
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Okay, so maybe I haven't considered the term "dated" as something narrowly connected to a certain music genre, if that's what you're saying. I think it's (too) difficult to distinguish between the genres here, especially in a Eurovision context where very few songs have no pop in them.

Having said that, I can definitely follow that "datedness" can mean a lot to how we assess songs. It does to me. But the quality of a song is very often too complex to be judged mainly by that parameter. And it seems the term "dated" is mostly used after the person who asserts it has made his or her mind up about the song.

To mention a couple of examples:

Gothminister's song - to me - was not only "dated" because of Lord Of The Lost last year. I even found 'Blood and Glitter' "dated" - that combination of growling plus a melodic chorus is very old-fashioned in my opinion. And yet - if I really thought those songs were great (if the melodies were slightly more interesting and so on), I would probably have loved them.

That was the case with Portion Boys last year. I was crazy about that entry - not primarily because of the glam rock nostalgia, but because the song was so catchy and well-crafted. If it hadn't been that, I might have called it "dated" ...

And then we have 'My AI'. I don't think it makes sense to talk about this song being "dated" or not. It's taken directly out of the 90's bubble gum genre. I can't find anything "new" in it (except for some fine details in the production possibly). Could they have written a 90's Daze-like song that I actually liked? I think they could, but it would probably have to be more complex to convince me.

I could also mention 'Take Me To Your Heaven' which I regard as one of the most "dated" Eurovision winners. I did then, and I do now. It really gave me a very strong feeling of "datedness". (And there hasn't been a similar winner ever since.) In fact, the schlager genre might be so traditional and "worn-out" that I would never have such a song among my favourites for Eurovision. But I've been surprised before, so I guess it's a case of never-say-never ...

Maybe the term "dated" is only adequate when you have the feeling that the composer isn't aware that his or her song sounds old. That could be the case for established artists who think their way of writing music is the only way that works. But it's hard to know for sure. Maybe they just stick to what they consider "their thing", and if Paul McCartney writes a song tomorrow, it might be a song you could call "dated", but it wouldn't seem right to describe it like that.

The concept of "timelessness" shouldn't be disregarded. If a song is strong, it could work in the 2030's or 2040’s even if it was written in the 2020's. In fact, "timeless" hits are among the songs I appreciate the most. Many past Eurovision winners are "timeless".

Mainshow said:
I think she would be struggling in May.
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As opposed to who ...?
 
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Saba is my 2nd in this selection, but

Sand isn't as save of a choice as some claim. I can see her getting lost in the semi, especially sandwiched between two more interesting songs.

Denmark is quite doomed in the first half of the semi. They're already against uptempos like Malta, Czechia, potentially Austria, Greece, and Switzerland (not ballad they claim).

I'll wait for the live show, but Aura Dione seems to hint that she's throwing everything and hoping something sticks which is exactly what Denmark needs rn. Mirrorball has a chance to open the semi and I think that might be a plus for them.
 
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I love Aura Dione's song so much. Sand is yet another beige Danish entry to me
 
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Aura Dione all the way plz. Denmark has been so vanilla and underwhelming the last years. She should be able to give them their best result in years.
 
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