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Better NF than expected.

Saba - Sand 5.4/10
Roseelu - Real Love 5.0/10
Basim - Johnny 3.7/10
stella - sign here 3.5/10
Janus Wiberg - I need your Love 3.1/10
Aura Dione - Mirrorball of Hope 2.9/10
Chuchu - The Chase 2.4/10
Ublu - Planetary Hearts 2.1/10
 

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Denmark dropping like a rock in the odds. 14th just before the songs were announced - now 27th. I wonder what that is about. Normally the bookmakers have some sort of idea of what the quality of the songs will be like. This is remarkable.

Maybe it's because SABA is leading in the polls? That song is an NQ in my opinion. I don't get what people see in that entry. The chorus is almost unpleasant to listen to, melodically. That the production is good, and her live vocal probably too - that doesn't make a competitive Eurovision song.

Last year the Danish televoters threw away an almost certain qualifier (Eyjaa). I fear they might go wrong again here.
 

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Denmark dropping like a rock in the odds. 14th just before the songs were announced - now 27th. I wonder what that is about. Normally the bookmakers have some sort of idea of what the quality of the songs will be like. This is remarkable.

Maybe it's because SABA is leading in the polls? That song is an NQ in my opinion. I don't get what people see in that entry. The chorus is almost unpleasant to listen to, melodically. That the production is good, and her live vocal probably too - that doesn't make a competitive Eurovision song.

Last year the Danish televoters threw away an almost certain qualifier (Eyjaa). I fear they might go wrong again here.
The same bookies that put Iceland at 1st? The odds at the moment are kinda screwed for some countries and I think in Denmark's regard, it's mostly the negative fandom that contributes to this and DR overhyping a "little" bit the selection
 
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The rumors about "a former Eurovision participant" and "Aura Dione" might have been responsible for Denmark's rise in the odds.

But Basim was not the artist people wanted/got excited about and unfortunately, Aura Dione's song is messy, utterly dated... Demark has improved a lot but compared to other NF's, it's still kinda vanilla (different shades of pop), a bit dated and I seriously can't see any of these tracks finishing Top 10 at all.
Bookies bet on winning chances and I think that we can agree on Denmark not being a competitor at all.
They can still get a very decent result and finally qualify, though!!

Also, odds are quite fragile at this point. Utterly poisoned by "politics" and we haven't even heard half of the "potential" entries and I believe that there aren't many ppl betting on ESC at this point (it will increase when more entries are known).
 

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But Basim was not the artist people wanted/got excited about

The odds didn't drop till days after it was known that Basim would be there.

Demark has improved a lot but compared to other NF's, it's still kinda vanilla (different shades of pop), a bit dated and I seriously can't see any of these tracks finishing Top 10 at all.

I'm not sure I agree that Denmark "has improved a lot". I think 2023 was more interesting than this one in many ways - certainly it was more diverse, in fact, probably one of the most diverse of all national selections that year (considering there was only 8 entries). The main problem in the end was that the Danish Melodi Grand Prix viewers didn't pick the song with most Eurovision potential (which was Eyjaa's).

Instead they chose one of the most modern (or "non-dated") songs of all songs in Liverpool. For various reasons it didn't do well. By the way, I don't think there is clear evidence that very modern songs are successful at Eurovision.

Again in 2024, the Danish NF has a Tiktok song - I don't think many other NF's have that. So no, I don't agree that the selection is "a bit dated". To make a comparison, I think the Eastern European NF's in general sound dated. The same goes for Portugal, for instance, where there seems to be no development at all. That may have its own charm, of course.

But Denmark's NF does have plenty of so-called radio-friendly pop this year. This reflects that the organizer insists on a strong connection between Melodi Grand Prix and the organizer's radio. You can argue that this strategy is wrong - international Eurovision fans might do that in particular, as they don't listen to Danish radio.

I think it makes sense in many ways, though. Dansk Melodi Grand Prix is one of the oldest still existing TV programmes in Denmark, and it shouldn't be reduced to just a matter of finding the best candidate for Europe. At the same time, I like the idea of the organizers supporting Danish songwriters, instead of buying stuff from abroad, as was done a lot in the late 2000's and in the 2010's.

The problem, however, is that the listeners of the channel which Melodi Grand Prix is "associated with" are quite different from the people in other countries that watch Eurovision. So we're dealing with a set of interests that don't seem to fit together here.

From a more narrow musical approach, Denmark's previous successes were often based on the songwriting from Lise Cabble. Take her out of Denmark's Eurovision history since the 1990's, and you'll see how much worse it could have looked. Unfortunately, she hasn't participated for several years (correct me if I'm wrong, but her latest entry might be "Human" from 2020).

Also, odds are quite fragile at this point. Utterly poisoned by "politics" and we haven't even heard half of the "potential" entries and I believe that there aren't many ppl betting on ESC at this point (it will increase when more entries are known).

Yes. And throughout the 2020's the bookmakers have been rating Denmark quite high from the outset of the competitions. Even though it's been four years since Denmark had a potential top 10 candidate. Maybe they regard Denmark's bad streak as a result of bad luck - which I can sort of follow, tbh. Coincidence does play a role here.
 
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What characterizes Dansk Melodi Grand Prix this year, is that there are four strong entries and four weak ones. They are all within the genre of pop (the NF is not exactly diverse), but the quality is very different.

All in all, if we only look at the best entries, I regard this selection as the strongest so far this year, including Norway and Finland.

My favourites:

1. RoseeLu - "Real Love"
2. Basim - "Johnny"
3. Aura Dione - "Mirrorball Of Hope"
4. Saba - "Sand"

5. Chu Chu - "The Chase (Zoom Zoom)"
6. Ublu - "Planetary Hearts"
7. Janus Wiberg - "I Need Your Love"
8. Stella - "Sign Here"

In terms of the song Denmark should choose in order to qualify in Malmö, I actually prefer Aura Dione's. It contains some of the elements that often lead to succes at Eurovision.

Unfortunately, there are currently signs that SABA will win - I think 'Sand' is the most certain NQ among my four favourite songs. It will probably be delivered nicely, as the singer is experienced, but the song is simply too mellow and doesn't stand out enough.

Denmark has been a little unlucky in the last couple of years. In 2021, the selection was unusually weak. In 2022, the pre-favourite did badly on stage. In 2023, the televoters picked the wrong songs for the final-3. Denmark needs a year where both the singer does well live, and the televoters make the right choice.
 
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You should pursue a career in stand up comedy
It’s always hard to discuss with people whose taste is very far away from mainstream and the general view among those who watch Eurovision. I’m usually right though, as my predictions match the outcome. (Compare old threads.)
 

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It’s always hard to discuss with people whose taste is very far away from mainstream and the general view among those who watch Eurovision. I’m usually right though, as my predictions match the outcome. (Compare old threads.)
There is nothing in here that will get you out of the semi
 

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There is nothing in here that will get you out of the semi
Well, I didn’t predict that Denmark is a sure qualifier, did I?

Regular mid-tempo pop songs are not guaranteed a success at Eurovision. Just think of ‘Snap’ which was obviously a great song - and later became one of the biggest hits worldwide from Eurovision ever. It didn’t even make it to the top 10 in the Grand Final.
 

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Well, I didn’t predict that Denmark is a sure qualifier, did I?

Regular mid-tempo pop songs are not guaranteed a success at Eurovision. Just think of ‘Snap’ which was obviously a great song - and later became one of the biggest hits worldwide from Eurovision ever. It didn’t even make it to the top 10 in the Grand Final.
Snap just got lucky on tiktok :lol:
Any song could've done that.
 

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Snap always felt like a song made for American radio and not for eurovision.

I believe in my mermaid on a mirroball of hope to take Denmark to the final.
 
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Snap just got lucky on tiktok :lol:
Any song could've done that.
Not many Eurovision songs get more than 100 million views on YouTube (for just one video).

But yeah, coincidence does play a role when a song makes a major breakthrough.
 
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