Current Member Roster & How to join the Waiting List

[Stargazer]

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01 Adamsburg (NSC 2 - NSC 91, NSC 177 - current)
02 Aimūlli (NSC 129 - current)
03 Arirang (NSC 169 - current)
04 Bagrovor (NSC 211 - current)
04 Balearica Island (NSC 42 - current)
05 Begonia (NSC 5 - NSC 48, NSC 122 - current)
06 Belvist (NSC 5 - NSC 58, NSC 125 - NSC 127, NSC 191 - current)
07 Biflovatia (NSC 108 - current)
08 Bigicia (NSC 92 - NSC 122, NSC 156 - current)
09 Calypso (NSC 7 - current)
10 Cherniya (NSC 92 - current)
11 Comino (NSC 7 - NSC 17, NSC 27 - current)
12 Cydoni-Gibberia (NSC 20 - current)
13 Dalisska (NSC 24 - NSC 90, NSC 118 - NSC 151, NSC 201 - current) has to confirm NSC 215
14 Doire (NSC 74 - current)
15 Effiland (NSC 8 - NSC 53, NSC 206 - current)
16 Emsfrynt (NSC 74 - current)
17 Endórë (NSC 209 - current)
18 Fervorosia (NSC 21 - current)
19 Griffin Empire (NSC 204 - current)
20 Halito (NSC 10 - current)
21 Insomnéa (NSC 96 - current)
22 ::jos Joseyeon (NSC 212 - current)
23 Kadis (NSC 157 - current)
24 Kamandé (NSC 57 - NSC 74, NSC 124 - current)
25 Kordavian Islands (NSC 109 - current)
26 Lacrea (NSC 102 - current)
27 MatiMati (NSC 154 - current)
28 Moisantia (NSC 93 - NSC 117, NSC 150 - current)
29 Mormadorei (NSC 201 - current)
30 New Acadia (NSC 52 - NSC 154, NSC 211 - current)
30 New Bander State (NSC 149 - current)
31 Öösingimäed (NSC 51 - NSC 120, NSC 209 - current)
32 Orangualia (NSC 56 - current)
33 Oussou Empire (NSC 101 - NSC 128, NSC 172 - current)
34 Perryfornia (NSC 65 - current) has to confirm NSC 215 ◆
35 Pyreica (NSC 190 - current)
36 Rahasia-Diati (NSC 148 - current)
37 Redwood Republic (NSC 177 - current)
38 Reym-L-Dneurb (NSC 1 - NSC 52, NSC 65 - NSC 152, NSC 206 - current)
40 Roseland (NSC 56 - current)
41 Rumia (NSC 55 - current)
42 Sakuralia (NSC 122 - current)
43 Serenes (NSC 143 - current)
44 Šilček (NSC 55 - current)
46 Sundfør (NSC 153 - current)
47 Svobodnia (NSC 169 - current)
48 Szimbaya Kingdom (NSC 188 - current)
49 Tamausia & Deltannor (NSC 188 - current)
50 Tanoiro (NSC 176 - current)
51 Tcher-Racoi (NSC 203 - current)
52 Tír an Abhainn (NSC 16 - current)
53 Tonallán (NSC 121 - current)
54 Trollheimr (NSC 105 - current)
55 Tuzi (NSC 90 - current)
56 Tybalteva (NSC 191 - current)
57 Ugaly (NSC 4 - current)
58 Utopolis (NSC 206 - current)
59 Vylkuzeme (NSC 109 - current)
60 Yaponesia (NSC 6 - current)

Last update: March 8th, 2023

Text version of the roster for copy/paste purposes

Adamsburg Aimūlli Arirang Bagrovor Balearica Island Begonia Belvist Biflovatia Bigicia Calypso Cherniya Comino Cydoni-Gibberia Dalisska Doire Effiland Emsfrynt Endórë Fervorosia Griffin Empire Halito Insomnéa Joseyeon Kadis Kamandé Kordavian Islands Lacrea MatiMati Moisantia Mormadorei New Acadia New Bander State Öösingimäed Orangualia Oussou Empire Perryfornia Pyreica Rahasia-Diati Redwood Republic Reym-L-Dneurb Roseland Rumia Sakuralia Serenes Šilček Sundfør Svobodnia Szimbaya Kingdom Tamausia & Deltannor Tanoiro Tcher-Racoi Tír an Abhainn Tonallán Trollheimr Tuzi Tybalteva Ugaly Utopolis Vylkuzeme Yaponesia

@Schlagerman1 @Territrius @Steffan @Vandalain @Morty @pjelacki @Milos-BC @nofuxCZ @Gera11 @renzo @Yoni @spiluke @Sean @Sabrewulf238 @doctormalisimo @Barish @Ewigkeit @HayashiM @pyryniemi @randajad @berlyda @Mozz @Seok-jin @MARCOMEN @Veliky @EurovisionSmile @Nicholas123 @Lonter @Mattan @theditz83 @Marlfox @Canuck @ferret @iowacorn @Leaf @CypriotGirl @Splash @Edweis @Veronika @Charly @anselm @FabiESC @dogmeat @esc87fan @Karhu @Lenalite @Koori @Rmetr0 @marc @theCONWEL @Ana Raquel @TomCherson @My Star @azilio99 @Stargazer @VasilijeM @tuorem @Fearnavigatr @Uto @as78 @takeru

Clicking on a flag icon will redirect you to the respective country's official thread.
Nations that miss 2 editions in a row will be removed and replaced with the nation at the top of the Waiting List (see below).

RESOURCES
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01. Ekholmia (Slagensala) NSC 215?
02. Fierro (Fierraria) WLSC 252/253 NSC 215?
03. Tinchey (Illumia)
04. Zeus (Konthena) WLSC 251/252/253
05. WolvXCII (Nauthinia Vallis) WLSC 250/251/252
06. Looren (Akatsuki) WLSC 251/252/253
07. Nathan (Pen Island)
08. Buranovskiy (Xochimilia) WLSC 251/252/253
09. Brandt (Kalos) WLSC 253 failed to vote NSC 214

Last update: March 8th, 2023

Nations or members in cyan have entered NSC at least once before.


Waiting list (WL) rules:[/FONT]

• Voting in each final of NSC as part of the waiting list jury is compulsory.
• Any waiting list nations who fail to vote will be moved 2 places down on the list.
• Nations who fail to vote 2 finals in a row will be removed from the list.
• Under certain circumstances waiting list nations can take a break from voting in the finals if a solid reason is given. During that period of time the position of the nation on the waiting list remains frozen and it can move neither up nor down.
• Nations with 'NSC XXX' beside them will debut/return in the next contest.
• Nations with 'NSC XXX?' beside them can send a reserve entry to the next contest.

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First of all, welcome to NSC! If you have any questions regarding the contest, feel free to post them in this thread or ask one of the mods: @Stargazer, @berlyda or @Veronika.

In order to get familiar with the contest, please take a look at the RULES!

If you want to apply for a place in NSC (or if you want to return), simply send a PM to Stargazer - you'll be added to the waiting list (see above).

Please note that you are probably going to be waiting for a long time as there is a strong demand for spots on the roster. In the meantime, you may enter the Waiting List contest, vote in the semi-finals of NSC and take part in the various spin-off contests if you wish to. Don't forget that voting in the finals is compulsory.

And most importantly: Have fun!

 

[Lenalite]

Sorry but it's not the same. I invited Xanadu to join Prasia but I never had intentions to leave the nation to Mackan. That would be really unfair to the others. After having a Serbia & Montenegro period, Xanadu left and I kept the rights of Prasia and UEOHPAX forever. In this case, the real owner wants to have the spot alone since Territius claims that he leaves the nation to him. I find it pretty unfair to the WL.

Hold awn, I had no clue that Territrius was going to leave. That changes everything.

I don't want to accuse anyone of anything but I am a blunt person and I am going to say it: it almost reeks of "Hey Alex, I don't want to take part right now but I want to return someday when it's convenient for me and I don't want to have to rejoin the WL so can you come back". No player should feel entitled to reserve a place for themselves.

 

[theCONWEL]

Just putting my 2 cents in x

I didn't sit and wait on the WL for 2 whole years (well, 9 in total ) for someone to then waltz in and skip the queue. Regardless of how old their nation is or how many editions they've taken part in before it's just not fair on those who have waited patiently and voted dedicatedly. I bet everyone who is supporting allowing Alex straight back in would kick off if I suddenly decided to sell off Deltannor to one of my friends and invited them straight in If it's happened in the past because of a loophole, then we shouldn't allow it to happen again, we should close the loophole.

I reckon players who want to co-jury should have to join the WL like everyone else, and would be able to join their co-jury at the same time that the player above them on the list joins the main roster.

 

[Jho]

Sis what? I'm asking you to explain what you mean and instead you are just being annoying. Fucking rude.

Go get some fresh air or something.

 

[Luke]

Hi everyone! I just wanted to apologize for some of this, I didn't mean any harm by letting Alex take Aimulli back when he approached me..

I love this contest and didn't necessarily want to leave it, but I found myself really busy and kind of in a rut when it came to contests in general (I left some on escforum too). Then Alex out of nowhere asked if he could come back to Aimulli. Now, in my mind I was always filling in for him, Aimulli never felt truly mine, though I did really do my own thing with it. So it wasn't hard for me to say to Alex that of course he could have it back, since it was his in the first place.

I'll be honest, at that point, the WL hadn't even crossed my mind, and I'm sorry about that, I know it's very long at the moment.

I would love to continue playing for Aimulli, so I would be delighted if Alex and I could work together for instance. But it feels weird for me to see Alex not being allowed in what is in my mind really still his own country. But I will accept any decision that is made about this.

Haven't really read through the last two pages of this thread, but this omission eXhibits intent for Territrius to leave as soon as Alex is back. This is clearly against the spirit of the competition.

 

[Uto]

Go get some fresh air or something.

I am asking you to explain what the problem is with my post according to you. This should not be such a difficult concept and as such it should not provoke these sorts of comments.

 

[doctormalisimo]

Just putting my 2 cents in x

I think this is the most disturbing gif I've ever seen in my life

 

[tuorem]

As far as I'm concerned, the instant reintegration of past members through joint participation should be prohibited: yes there is nothing in the rules to prevent such things from happening as of now, but it coming across as irreverent to WListers should be enough to settle this issue. It is like putting a few items on the checkout conveyor belt and then continue shopping while others queue up behind your cart. I think it's a matter of decency more than anything else here.

The waiting time in the WL is already long enough to allow free passes, regardless of the story around the nation being discussed.

 

[berlyda]

I don't want to accuse anyone of anything but I am a blunt person and I am going to say it: it almost reeks of "Hey Alex, I don't want to take part right now but I want to return someday when it's convenient for me and I don't want to have to rejoin the WL so can you come back". No player should feel entitled to reserve a place for themselves.

Yes, exactly. Alex reserved a place for himself all those years ago when he left Territrius (Nicolas) in charge and now he is coming back to claim the place he reserved because it isn't convenient for him to join the WL.

EDIT: Now that I re-read what you wrote, I see you are accusing Nicolas of intending to do the same thing. Not really sure if that is the case, but of course that would be just as bad if true.

 

[Lenalite]

Yes, exactly. Alex reserved a place for himself all those years ago when he left Territrius (Nicolas) in charge and now he is coming back to claim the place he reserved because it isn't convenient for him to join the WL.

EDIT: Now that I re-read what you wrote, I see you are accusing Nicolas of intending to do the same thing. Not really sure if that is the case, but of course that would be just as bad if true.

Your reading sounds equally concerning.

Again, I don't want to be disrespectful and I guess it makes no sense to discuss this right now but I never understood why Aimulli was allowed to be taken over by another user to begin with. It was really confusing to me as their entries/taste/votes changed drastically. I don't remember the exact situation but -in my head- it makes more sense to end nations once their original owner is gone.

But yeah, then this whole situation would've been avoided, with Alex having to re-join the WL like so many other returnees who have had to go through the same process.

 

[berlyda]

Your reading sounds equally concerning.

Again, I don't want to be disrespectful and I guess it makes no sense to discuss this right now but I never understood why Aimulli was allowed to be taken over by another user to begin with. It was really confusing to me as their taste/votes changed drastically. I don't remember the exact situation but -in my head- it makes more sense to end nations once their original owner is gone.

But yeah, then this whole situation would've been avoided, with Alex having to re-join the WL like so many other returnees who have had to go through the same process.

Yes, it should not have happened in the first place. We can avoid all of this mess by having one simple rule:

If you want to join NSC, then you have to go through the WL.
-This applies even if you are joining as a co-juror of an existing nation.
-This also applies if you have left the contest and are re-joining, even if your old nation still exists under someone else's control.

I think how co-jurors decide to handle the fate of the nation when one of them leaves should be up to them. So long as they follow this rule, I'm fine with the nation continuing to exist, if that's what they want.

 

[MiraWarninyi]

It doesn't make sense though waiting a year (or more) just to be co-jury of some existing country

 

[berlyda]

It doesn't make sense though waiting a year (or more) just to be co-jury of some existing country

Then they can make their own country if they wish. They shouldn't be allowed to skip the waiting list just because they know someone who is in the contest already.

 

[MiraWarninyi]

And what if they don't want a country by their own but wants to join? It's not a big deal and like, the person will make up 50% of final votes.

 

[Charly]

welp if thats the case 1 can skip the queue, I might aswell swap my place with someone in WL and jump right back at the bottom of the WL list

 

[Lonter]

Hold awn, I had no clue that Territrius was going to leave. That changes everything.

I don't want to accuse anyone of anything but I am a blunt person and I am going to say it: it almost reeks of "Hey Alex, I don't want to take part right now but I want to return someday when it's convenient for me and I don't want to have to rejoin the WL so can you come back". No player should feel entitled to reserve a place for themselves.

That's a valid perception, but from what I've gathered after talking with Nicolas about this, this is not the case.

Despite the amount of time Territrius has mained Aimulli, Territrius feels like since he wasn't the founder that Alex was the real owner of the nation. Since Alex showed interested in coming back and Territrius wasn't interested in having a Kordavian Islands scenario (which would be a neat solution), he just left the nation to what he perceived to be the owner. There is no double play involved in that regard, though I understand why you would think there would be one, but no, Nicolas idea was never to take a break while Alex played.

As for why he didn't join the WL, well, it's long and that's a commitment, so I don't think that needs explaining. Which brings us back to how understandably WL members aren't very happy with these swaps that have been happening now for quite some time.

I'm not saying that this isn't an issue because obviously it is, but eh yeah, just wanted to make clear that this is not the scenario of entitlement that you discussed (but I can see why someone would think that).

 

[Territrius]

Hold awn, I had no clue that Territrius was going to leave. That changes everything.

I don't want to accuse anyone of anything but I am a blunt person and I am going to say it: it almost reeks of "Hey Alex, I don't want to take part right now but I want to return someday when it's convenient for me and I don't want to have to rejoin the WL so can you come back". No player should feel entitled to reserve a place for themselves.

I wasn't going to leave at all. If people want, and if Alex agrees, I can post my Discord conversation with him. We hadn't talked for a while and out of the blue he told me he was interested in coming back to Aimulli. As I was just on a one edition break at that moment anyway I told him that since it's really his country, he can have it back. I wasn't planning on leaving at all. I get why there are misunderstandings, but I don't want people to get the wrong idea.

 

[berlyda]

Okay, I'm glad we cleared that up. It still doesn't change the fact that Alex essentially skipped the waiting list by having you reserve his spot on the roster until he felt like returning.

 

[Territrius]

Okay, I'm glad we cleared that up. It still doesn't change the fact that Alex essentially skipped the waiting list by having you reserve his spot on the roster until he felt like returning.

That's true, and I completely understand your point of view. I just wanted to explain in my first post why I decided to accept him taking it back. I really didn't mean any harm by it, and honestly, I also had no idea how long, both in numbers and in time, the WL is at the moment. But it doesn't change that, even though I've been in NSC for so long now and hosted twice, it always felt like I was just filling in for Alex.

 

[berlyda]

That's true, and I completely understand your point of view. I just wanted to explain in my first post why I decided to accept him taking it back. I really didn't mean any harm by it, and honestly, I also had no idea how long, both in numbers and in time, the WL is at the moment. But it doesn't change that, even though I've been in NSC for so long now and hosted twice, it always felt like I was just filling in for Alex.

Perhaps a good compromise would be for Alex to join the WL as Aimulli and for you to continue on the main roster under a different nation name.

 

[Morty]

The biggest issue here (imo) is the length of the WL, something that we could have gotten rid of if we had just managed to agree on one of the many suggestions for reducing the WL, instead of being so focused on how hard it would be to qualify for finals.