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Big rumors today that Stefan Raab, who seems to be flirting with some sort of TV comeback atm, is currently pitching the idea of a multi channel national final concept for next year including all of ARD, ZDF, RTL and ProSieben.

i'm really scared of the other major change that was announced, I really hope its not letting the lines open during jury voting...

Just completely resignated by now. The songchecks were the only good thing NDR ever made. I think I might have enjoyed watching the song checks more than actual Eurovision in some years? Like when they did the songchecks in the pandemic year, this was genuinely a nice replacement for me...

Today I feel underwhelmed. I quite liked the snippet but I don't feel the song is much more than the snippet multiplied a few times...

Is it really comparable though? With the old system, some would have considered to keep voting after the jury vote announcement, because every act could've still benefitted from getting votes. While with this year's voting, every vote not going to Isaak or Max would have been a complete waste...

Omg such a close race in the televote. Its all such a mess tbh 🤣

I don't know about this year, they haven't released any info on the NF yet (and they probably won't? Do we need Ikke threatening a lawsuit again for them to be transparent??), but last year they made a point of inviting previous ESC jurors or artists on the international juries. Like last year's...

People getting upset about the Schlager segment when clearly the WTF moment of the night was when 70-year-old Mathieu Carriere (a.k.a the guy who pissed on an ice cube on trash TV a few years ago) was somehow randomly revealed to be Ninety-Nine's best friend??? Like I'm not 100% convinced this...

Yeah, betting odds always take a bit to adjust, especially on an aggregated site like eurovisionworld where not everything's updated at the same time.

When are they releasing the jury members? I'd love to know who was on the Spanish jury. Naiv 1st, Katze 2nd, Tears like Rain and Oh Boy bottom 3, very interesting ranking lmao

To be honest, I think Ryk just got a bit unlucky with the jury voting procedure. I mean he's merely 4 points behind second place and yet leaves the jury voting with 5 total points and no more chance for the win. So 5th jury place is maybe a bit underappreciated, but it's not like they entirely...

Omg now i cant unhear the elephant sounds in Isaak's song anymore 😭

Absolutely. Ultimately, the conclusion I'm drawing from all of this is the same I had when we were researching the entries. We are in no state to host a national final at the moment. The quality is just not there. And sure, NDR made some boneheaded decisions over the years, like that ridicilous...

Going from whiny, self-pitying 'I'm tired, tired of always losing' to an angry, shouty 'I'm nothing but the average, noone gives a shit about me'.

James Newman did both... I can see it happen. That said, it was a turning point for UK so maybe our own James Newman leads to the same thing. Schlager channel MDR in charge next year, national final with 10 Marie Reims. :love:

100%, but that was always obvious. He finished dead last in 2018 too and the people I was watching it were like meh. But The televote came through for him, I would have exactly predicted 3rd place with the 60-70k bubble votes. It's the juries that threw the curveball...

Isaak was a dark horse for a reason. A very German winner, televote too. I like the song quite a bit but its not going to do well in Malmo I fear, which is a sham for Isaak. While I would have absolutely enjoyed seeing Max flopping

Has Ryk been left out of the medley lmao?

How is it possible for a broadcaster to constantly make the wrong decision... I now hope its Max because at least then we're all united in our disdain

Imagine Ryk winning the televote and not making it lmao